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KK6MC/r in June VHF contest

James Duffey
 

K9YR was kind enough to forward these recordings of me in the June VHF contest from DM66. K9YR is in EN52. Conditions were very good. - Duffey KK6MC



James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

Jonesy W3DHJ
 

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, James Duffey wrote:

K9YR was kind enough to forward these recordings of me in the June VHF
contest from DM66. K9YR is in EN52. Conditions were very good. - Duffey
KK6MC
Likewise, K9YR sent me a recording of myself when I
was hollering "CQ CONTEST" in DM77.
Like almost everyone, I don't believe I really sound
like that. HI!HI!
But, I feel good that my voice is so "legible" --
something I've always worried about.

73
Jonesy
--
Marvin L Jones | W3DHJ | W3DHJ | https://W3DHJ.net/
Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | __ linux FreeBSD
38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | 73 SK

Bruce Draper
 

I wish I had a recording of this exchange in the June contest, 6-meter phone. It was kinda funny, kinda irritating. 

K9GX: CQ contest CQ contest this is K 9 Germany X-ray (I think that was the call).
Me: Alpha alpha five bravo.
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe.
Me: You’re not in my log. 
Him: I can’t work you. CQ contest k 9 Germany xray.
Me: You’re not in my log, can we please work? delta mike 65
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe and I can’t work you. 
Me: You’re going to send in a log with me in it, I’m going to send in a log without you in it, and you’re going to be penalized. Can’t we just work now?
Him: I’m not going to argue with you, and I’m not going to work you. Cq cq cq contest...

All of that took at least 5 times longer that it would’ve to just work me. 

VHF is hard, I guess. 

    -Bruce AA5B




On Tuesday, June 18, 2019, James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:

K9YR was kind enough to forward these recordings of me in the June VHF contest from DM66. K9YR is in EN52. Conditions were very good. - Duffey KK6MC



James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM



James Duffey
 

Yeah, some people are clueless. Not sure why working dupes is a bad thing, but many contesters think it is.  

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jun 18, 2019, at 21:55, Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:

I wish I had a recording of this exchange in the June contest, 6-meter phone. It was kinda funny, kinda irritating. 

K9GX: CQ contest CQ contest this is K 9 Germany X-ray (I think that was the call).
Me: Alpha alpha five bravo.
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe.
Me: You’re not in my log. 
Him: I can’t work you. CQ contest k 9 Germany xray.
Me: You’re not in my log, can we please work? delta mike 65
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe and I can’t work you. 
Me: You’re going to send in a log with me in it, I’m going to send in a log without you in it, and you’re going to be penalized. Can’t we just work now?
Him: I’m not going to argue with you, and I’m not going to work you. Cq cq cq contest...

All of that took at least 5 times longer that it would’ve to just work me. 

VHF is hard, I guess. 

    -Bruce AA5B




On Tuesday, June 18, 2019, James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:

K9YR was kind enough to forward these recordings of me in the June VHF contest from DM66. K9YR is in EN52. Conditions were very good. - Duffey KK6MC



James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM



Jonesy W3DHJ
 

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, Bruce Draper wrote:

I wish I had a recording of this exchange in the June contest, 6-meter
phone. It was kinda funny, kinda irritating.

K9GX: CQ contest CQ contest this is K 9 Germany X-ray (I think that was the
call).
Me: Alpha alpha five bravo.
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe.
Me: You’re not in my log.
Him: I can’t work you. CQ contest k 9 Germany xray.
Me: You’re not in my log, can we please work? delta mike 65
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe and I can’t work you.
Me: You’re going to send in a log with me in it, I’m going to send in a log
without you in it, and you’re going to be penalized. Can’t we just work now?
Him: I’m not going to argue with you, and I’m not going to work you. Cq cq
cq contest...

All of that took at least 5 times longer that it would’ve to just work me.

VHF is hard, I guess.
Then there's the problem rovers have (usually on 6M) when working
someone new to VHF contesting and using a non-VHF logging program.

"You are a dupe"
"No, I am not. I am in new grid."
"Oh, does that make a difference?"
.......

The Q-rate is queered for awhile.

Jonesy
--
Marvin L Jones | W3DHJ | W3DHJ | https://W3DHJ.net/
Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | __ linux FreeBSD
38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | 73 SK

Keith Morehouse
 

Golden Log syndrome ??

-RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG


On Tue, Jun 18, 2019, 11:55 PM Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:
I wish I had a recording of this exchange in the June contest, 6-meter phone. It was kinda funny, kinda irritating. 

K9GX: CQ contest CQ contest this is K 9 Germany X-ray (I think that was the call).
Me: Alpha alpha five bravo.
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe.
Me: You’re not in my log. 
Him: I can’t work you. CQ contest k 9 Germany xray.
Me: You’re not in my log, can we please work? delta mike 65
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe and I can’t work you. 
Me: You’re going to send in a log with me in it, I’m going to send in a log without you in it, and you’re going to be penalized. Can’t we just work now?
Him: I’m not going to argue with you, and I’m not going to work you. Cq cq cq contest...

All of that took at least 5 times longer that it would’ve to just work me. 

VHF is hard, I guess. 

    -Bruce AA5B




On Tuesday, June 18, 2019, James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:

K9YR was kind enough to forward these recordings of me in the June VHF contest from DM66. K9YR is in EN52. Conditions were very good. - Duffey KK6MC



James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM



John Klem
 

Perhaps the dupe fear is related to the apocalyptic warning that at least my logging software issues when I'm about to enter one?  Please tell me and perhaps a few other inexperienced contesters why we shouldn't worry.  I'm guessing dupes are ignored somewhere in the scoring process?  Are they properly ignored in the score my logging software generates?

John, AA5PR

Bill
 

John,

It's always best to log QSOs reported as dupes wherever a conflict is indicated.  Unlike some contests, there is no penalty for dupes in ARRL VHF contests. It is an unfortunate  certainty that one of the stations will miss the score when either station indicates there's a dupe. On the few occasions I've run into someone hard headed I simply say that I'll look into it, may I have your grid please so I can verify my findings.  I've never run into someone who does not provide that info even though he/she may fight over whether or not they'll "work you again". A second approach is to ask for the date/time at which they have you listed as a contact.  Most logging programs provide that info. Real dupes are not counted for score or a mult.

That said, always, ALWAYS log the latest contact, even if you find a log error. There's nothing to lose.

NMVHF Society has a subject matter expert covering contesting and logging (W9RM Keith) if you want to learn more about the intricacies.

73 Bill W7QQ


On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 5:58 PM John Klem <klemjf@...> wrote:
Perhaps the dupe fear is related to the apocalyptic warning that at least my logging software issues when I'm about to enter one?  Please tell me and perhaps a few other inexperienced contesters why we shouldn't worry.  I'm guessing dupes are ignored somewhere in the scoring process?  Are they properly ignored in the score my logging software generates?

John, AA5PR

Keith Morehouse
 

...dupes are ignored in the scoring process.  Both on your end and at the ARRL.  Dupes do not alter your score.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG


On Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 6:58 PM John Klem <klemjf@...> wrote:
Perhaps the dupe fear is related to the apocalyptic warning that at least my logging software issues when I'm about to enter one?  Please tell me and perhaps a few other inexperienced contesters why we shouldn't worry.  I'm guessing dupes are ignored somewhere in the scoring process?  Are they properly ignored in the score my logging software generates?

John, AA5PR