from DM63


Tom N7GP
 

Well put!!!!
Tom
N7GP
73
Tom

From: "Keith Morehouse" <w9rm@...>
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 11:49:29 -0700
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...a LOT of evidence.  And no, there was no reported sporadic E.  I talked to 'DRH later in the day and he verified it was meteors.  1100 miles is at the high end of what I consider the M/S 'sweet spot' distance of 900-1100 miles, where two decently equipped station can make contact pretty much 12-18 hours a day.

This is the same distance where two WELL equipped stations (running KW into 4-5+ elements) can connect on ionoscatter during most of the day.  If you're persistent on 6, you don't need no steekin' Es...

The practical limit for M/S is somewhere between 1300-1500 miles, same as Es - this is single "hop", of course.  You may note that the 2M M/S record is MUCH farther then that, which has had many people, me included, sceptical for years.  But, that's a conversation for another time.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 11:14 AM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
Don’t know about Es yesterday morning, but most of the meteor ionization is at the same altitude as the E layer, so the distances involved would be about the same.

There is some evidence, although far from conclusive, and lots of conjecture, that the ions in the E layer contributing to Es are the result of meteors. - Duffey

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

> On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:51, Steve London <n2ic@...> wrote:
>
> Was there also some Es happening ?
>
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
>
>> On 01/16/2020 10:22 AM, Keith Morehouse wrote:
>> K2DRH in EN41 was also calling Bruce, but was running very low power due to antenna icing.  That's probably close to 1000 miles.  Nice job from a portable setup.
>> I was watching PSKREPORTER while Bruce was CQing and he was getting reported as far away as Alabama.
>> -W9RM
>> Keith Morehouse
>> via MotoG
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 10:13 AM Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@... <mailto:bruceaa5b@...>> wrote:
>>     >> Can you give us details on your best DX?
>>    Looks like EM48, St Louis area, >800 miles.
>
>
>





Keith Morehouse
 

...a LOT of evidence.  And no, there was no reported sporadic E.  I talked to 'DRH later in the day and he verified it was meteors.  1100 miles is at the high end of what I consider the M/S 'sweet spot' distance of 900-1100 miles, where two decently equipped station can make contact pretty much 12-18 hours a day.

This is the same distance where two WELL equipped stations (running KW into 4-5+ elements) can connect on ionoscatter during most of the day.  If you're persistent on 6, you don't need no steekin' Es...

The practical limit for M/S is somewhere between 1300-1500 miles, same as Es - this is single "hop", of course.  You may note that the 2M M/S record is MUCH farther then that, which has had many people, me included, sceptical for years.  But, that's a conversation for another time.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 11:14 AM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
Don’t know about Es yesterday morning, but most of the meteor ionization is at the same altitude as the E layer, so the distances involved would be about the same.

There is some evidence, although far from conclusive, and lots of conjecture, that the ions in the E layer contributing to Es are the result of meteors. - Duffey

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

> On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:51, Steve London <n2ic@...> wrote:
>
> Was there also some Es happening ?
>
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
>
>> On 01/16/2020 10:22 AM, Keith Morehouse wrote:
>> K2DRH in EN41 was also calling Bruce, but was running very low power due to antenna icing.  That's probably close to 1000 miles.  Nice job from a portable setup.
>> I was watching PSKREPORTER while Bruce was CQing and he was getting reported as far away as Alabama.
>> -W9RM
>> Keith Morehouse
>> via MotoG
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 10:13 AM Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@... <mailto:bruceaa5b@...>> wrote:
>>     >> Can you give us details on your best DX?
>>    Looks like EM48, St Louis area, >800 miles.
>
>
>





James Duffey
 

Don’t know about Es yesterday morning, but most of the meteor ionization is at the same altitude as the E layer, so the distances involved would be about the same.

There is some evidence, although far from conclusive, and lots of conjecture, that the ions in the E layer contributing to Es are the result of meteors. - Duffey

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:51, Steve London <n2ic@...> wrote:

Was there also some Es happening ?

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 01/16/2020 10:22 AM, Keith Morehouse wrote:
K2DRH in EN41 was also calling Bruce, but was running very low power due to antenna icing. That's probably close to 1000 miles. Nice job from a portable setup.
I was watching PSKREPORTER while Bruce was CQing and he was getting reported as far away as Alabama.
-W9RM
Keith Morehouse
via MotoG
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 10:13 AM Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@... <mailto:bruceaa5b@...>> wrote:
>> Can you give us details on your best DX?
Looks like EM48, St Louis area, >800 miles.


Steve N2IC
 

Was there also some Es happening ?

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 01/16/2020 10:22 AM, Keith Morehouse wrote:
K2DRH in EN41 was also calling Bruce, but was running very low power due to antenna icing.  That's probably close to 1000 miles.  Nice job from a portable setup.
I was watching PSKREPORTER while Bruce was CQing and he was getting reported as far away as Alabama.
-W9RM
Keith Morehouse
via MotoG
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 10:13 AM Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@... <mailto:bruceaa5b@...>> wrote:

>> Can you give us details on your best DX?
Looks like EM48, St Louis area, >800 miles.


James Duffey
 

1119 miles according to this:


1800 kM, not too far from the maximum meteor scatter distance of about 2000kM. Very good for your relatively simple setup. - Duffey

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:23, Keith Morehouse <w9rm@...> wrote:


K2DRH in EN41 was also calling Bruce, but was running very low power due to antenna icing.  That's probably close to 1000 miles.  Nice job from a portable setup.

I was watching PSKREPORTER while Bruce was CQing and he was getting reported as far away as Alabama.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 10:13 AM Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:
>> Can you give us details on your best DX?

Looks like EM48, St Louis area, >800 miles.


Keith Morehouse
 

K2DRH in EN41 was also calling Bruce, but was running very low power due to antenna icing.  That's probably close to 1000 miles.  Nice job from a portable setup.

I was watching PSKREPORTER while Bruce was CQing and he was getting reported as far away as Alabama.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG


On Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 10:13 AM Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:
>> Can you give us details on your best DX?

Looks like EM48, St Louis area, >800 miles.


Bruce Draper
 

>> Can you give us details on your best DX?

Looks like EM48, St Louis area, >800 miles.


James Duffey
 

Nice work Bruce. Can you give us details on your best DX?

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jan 15, 2020, at 10:48, Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:

Here's a photo from my DM63 operation on Wednesday morning. Worked W9RM on MSK144 for his last NM grid, along with about 15 other guys, plus 2 more on FT8.

Bruce AA5B



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Bill
 

Well done guys!


On Jan 15, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Keith Morehouse <w9rm@...> wrote:


Bruce, you had good, consistent scatter pings whenever you were pointed my direction.  Real good for 300-350 miles. Thanks for going out and for the last DM-field grid.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020, 10:48 AM Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:
Here's a photo from my DM63 operation on Wednesday morning. Worked W9RM on MSK144 for his last NM grid, along with about 15 other guys, plus 2 more on FT8.

Bruce AA5B




Michael Daly
 

Bruce,
That's a lot of weight on the trailer hitch.
Good going.
Mike, n5sj

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Here's a photo from my DM63 operation on Wednesday morning. Worked W9RM on
MSK144 for his last NM grid, along with about 15 other guys, plus 2 more on
FT8.

Bruce AA5B


Mike WB2FKO
 

Congratulations, I imagine you are getting close to FFMA?

Mike WB2FKO

On 1/15/20 12:52 PM, Keith Morehouse wrote:

Bruce, you had good, consistent scatter pings whenever you were pointed my direction.  Real good for 300-350 miles. Thanks for going out and for the last DM-field grid.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020, 10:48 AM Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:
Here's a photo from my DM63 operation on Wednesday morning. Worked W9RM on MSK144 for his last NM grid, along with about 15 other guys, plus 2 more on FT8.

Bruce AA5B




Keith Morehouse
 

Bruce, you had good, consistent scatter pings whenever you were pointed my direction.  Real good for 300-350 miles. Thanks for going out and for the last DM-field grid.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG


On Wed, Jan 15, 2020, 10:48 AM Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:
Here's a photo from my DM63 operation on Wednesday morning. Worked W9RM on MSK144 for his last NM grid, along with about 15 other guys, plus 2 more on FT8.

Bruce AA5B




Bruce Draper
 

Here's a photo from my DM63 operation on Wednesday morning. Worked W9RM on MSK144 for his last NM grid, along with about 15 other guys, plus 2 more on FT8.

Bruce AA5B