Date   

W3DHJ/R CQ WW VHF DM77-78-87-88

Jonesy W3DHJ
 

The current prediction is for 102 degrees on Saturday.
Sunday's prediction isn't much better. Whewwwww!!

I'll be doing DM88 - DM87 - DM77 - DM78, in that sequence on Sat.

I may stay out late enough on Saturday to see the NEOWISE comet... :-)

I'll be doing DM78 - DM77 - DM87 - DM88, in that sequence on Sun.

If Saturday shows it to be just an FT4/FT8 Computer Contest,
I will probably blow off any Sunday operations.

More details:
https://w3dhj.net/vhfrover_plans.php


May The Mask be with you.
73 ES GUD DX
Jonesy
--
Marvin L Jones | W3DHJ | W3DHJ | https://W3DHJ.net/
Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | __ linux FreeBSD
38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | 73 SK


Fw: [VHFcontesting] Anyone need EM87 on 6m or 2m?

KC7QY
 



Jim KC7QY


----- Forwarded Message -----

From: Terry Price <terry@...>
To: "vhf@..." <vhf@...>; vhfcontesting@... <vhfcontesting@...>; "newsvhf@..." <newsvhf@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020, 10:37:17 AM MDT
Subject: [VHFcontesting] Anyone need EM87 on 6m or 2m?

Folks,

After a little "prodding" from a local ham, I'm contemplating a portable
operation from EM87 in the CQ VHF contest coming up. EM87 appears to be a
much needed grid and It's been 35 years since I was there last, back when
we first went to grid squares I was there for a 6m sprint as WD8ISK. I will
have a kw on both bands and will operate SSB, CW and digital.

Let me know if you are interested and please pass this on to your
respective groups that I might not be a member of.

Terry Price - W8ZN
Directive Systems and Engineering
703-754-3876
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Re: 2020 JAN VHF

Bill Mader
 

Wonderful job again Duffey!  Thanks for doing this as it brings great value to those who strive to do well in the contest.

We are fortunate in NM to have you, along with Bruce and Scott authors of the awesome SS-SSB coverage, who put in a lot of time and effort on these contest summaries.  While it's hard to believe, uninformed hams (they can't count pages apparently) think there is too much contest coverage in QST now!  I think the additional coverage on the Web is appropriate and greatly appreciated.  Reading that coverage should be part of everyone's contest preparation checklist.

While not VHF and above, I hope to work many of you in the IARU HF Championship Contest this weekend.

73, Bill Mader, K8TE
ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio
Duke City Hamfest BoD Vice-Chairman www.dukecityhamfest.org 17-19 Sep 2021
Secretary and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association 
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 12-20 Sep 2020


On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 3:17 PM Michael Daly <arrowengineering1@...> wrote:
Agreed,
Telling a story, not just reporting a contest.
73, Mike, n5sj

-----Original Message-----
From: main@nmvhf.groups.io [mailto:main@nmvhf.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonesy
W3DHJ via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2020 6:46 AM
To: NM VHF <nmvhf@groups.io>
Subject: [nmvhf] 2020 JAN VHF

Duffey,

That was one hell of a write-up you did for the 2020 ARRL JAN VHF!
I can't even imagine the amount of time and effort that you put into that!

I thank you.  I'm sure we all thank you.
Good on you, mate!

73
Jonesy
--
  Marvin L Jones     | W3DHJ      | W3DHJ  | https://W3DHJ.net/
   Pueblo, Colorado  |  @         | Jonesy |     __ linux FreeBSD
    38.238N 104.547W |   jonz.net | DM78rf | 73  SK







Re: 2020 JAN VHF

Michael Daly
 

Agreed,
Telling a story, not just reporting a contest.
73, Mike, n5sj

-----Original Message-----
From: main@nmvhf.groups.io [mailto:main@nmvhf.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonesy
W3DHJ via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2020 6:46 AM
To: NM VHF <nmvhf@groups.io>
Subject: [nmvhf] 2020 JAN VHF

Duffey,

That was one hell of a write-up you did for the 2020 ARRL JAN VHF!
I can't even imagine the amount of time and effort that you put into that!

I thank you. I'm sure we all thank you.
Good on you, mate!

73
Jonesy
--
Marvin L Jones | W3DHJ | W3DHJ | https://W3DHJ.net/
Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | __ linux FreeBSD
38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | 73 SK


Re: 2020 JAN VHF

James Duffey
 

Thanks for the nice words Bruce. I think it hard to talk about the impact FT8 has had on the January VHF contest without some background, and that background grew into history. That picture of K1JT as a very young K2ITP was too good not to include.

Scott and Bruce’s write ups are excellent and contain a lot of data which is interesting to study and is helpful in planning one’s sweepstakes efforts. Highly recommended reading. 

I had thought about going into the discussion of encouraging different modes with different point structures, but there are a lot of layers to that discussion and I couldn’t really put forth a succinct discussion without a lot of caveats and equivocating, so yeah, a stand alone discussion for later. We could start one here. 

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:35, Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:


Nice job, Duffey. I especially liked the historical info.
When you said "Having different QSO points for the higher bands has, in the long run, helped to get people on these bands," I thought for sure you'd follow it with something like "so maybe another change to the point structure could be used to encourage more activity on CW and phone." Saving that for another time? ;-)

For those of you VHFers who might want to take a peek at the HF contesting world occasionally, here's a link to the writeup that K5TA (also a NMVHFS member) and I did for last year's ARRL November Phone Sweepstakes: 
https://contests.arrl.org/ContestResults/2019/SS-Phone-2019-FinalFullResults.pdf

73,
   Bruce AA5B

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 12:03 PM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
Jay, thanks for the kind words. I have contemplated doing a subset of this article with the activity data for the Contest Update e-mail newsletter or National Contesting Journal.  I think I would need to beef it up with data from the other contests though and that is going to take some more effort. 

When the results writeup was done in print, there was a  page limit, which limited how much stuff could be in print and it is likely that at least most of the data related to the activity trends would have to have been left out and would end up on the web anyway. 

Anyway, I am looking into how the data can get a wider distribution.

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jul 8, 2020, at 09:39, Jay Baack <whereisjay@...> wrote:


I know I sent you a direct message Duffey, but I too agree that this was an excellent write up.  It is a travesty that this information is NOT included in the print version of QST.  A wealth of information and a lot of great data showing positive activity trends and band/mode utilization.  Great summaries like this NEED to be out in the public eye to generate more activity for all of us to benefit from.

Well done my man.   Coffee or drink of choice on me at Yuma 2021!  (Fingers crossed).

 - Jay N1AV

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:26 AM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
Thanks Mike, I appreciate the comments and they are well received here. Some times when I get bogged down writing these things I get discouraged and comments like yours make it all worthwhile.

I wanted to write a bit on how the use of FT8 has changed the contest, but I realized that I could not do that without writing about the history of the contest and how it has changed over the years. So, that was how that all came about.

When I first started roving I spent a long time studying various VHF propagation modes, particularly with regards to contesting. That led me to Joe’s article on using scatter to make more contacts at greater distances in the VHF contests. That article, though quantitative, still contains information that is useful today. Anyway, looking at past contest results as part of that I found the picture of 16 year old Joe and how he and his brother really changed VHF contesting. I filed that away for future use and that time finally came. It all fits together nicely, puts WSJT into perspective, and I think most importantly, it shows that it is not a recent development, but is obviously a result of Joe’s early experience in contesting.

With the quarantine at ARRL HQ, finding a copy of the picture suitable for the article turned out to be an effort for the editors.

Again, thanks for the kind words. - Duffey

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

> On Jul 8, 2020, at 09:02, Mike H <mph@...> wrote:
>
> The historical reference to Joe Taylor and his brother along with VHF contests of the past was excellent!
>
> Mike WB2FKO
>
>> On 7/8/20 9:19 AM, James Duffey wrote:
>> Thanks Jonesy.
>>
>> James Duffey KK6MC
>> Cedar Crest NM
>>
>>>> On Jul 8, 2020, at 06:46, Jonesy W3DHJ via groups.io <mailserver=jonz.net@groups.io> wrote:
>>>
>>> Duffey,
>>>
>>> That was one hell of a write-up you did for the 2020 ARRL JAN VHF!
>>> I can't even imagine the amount of time and effort that you put
>>> into that!
>>>
>>> I thank you.  I'm sure we all thank you.
>>> Good on you, mate!
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Jonesy
>>> --
>>>  Marvin L Jones     | W3DHJ      | W3DHJ  | https://W3DHJ.net/
>>>   Pueblo, Colorado  |  @         | Jonesy |     __ linux FreeBSD
>>>    38.238N 104.547W |   jonz.net | DM78rf | 73  SK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>





Re: 2020 JAN VHF

Bruce Draper
 

Nice job, Duffey. I especially liked the historical info.
When you said "Having different QSO points for the higher bands has, in the long run, helped to get people on these bands," I thought for sure you'd follow it with something like "so maybe another change to the point structure could be used to encourage more activity on CW and phone." Saving that for another time? ;-)

For those of you VHFers who might want to take a peek at the HF contesting world occasionally, here's a link to the writeup that K5TA (also a NMVHFS member) and I did for last year's ARRL November Phone Sweepstakes: 
https://contests.arrl.org/ContestResults/2019/SS-Phone-2019-FinalFullResults.pdf

73,
   Bruce AA5B

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 12:03 PM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
Jay, thanks for the kind words. I have contemplated doing a subset of this article with the activity data for the Contest Update e-mail newsletter or National Contesting Journal.  I think I would need to beef it up with data from the other contests though and that is going to take some more effort. 

When the results writeup was done in print, there was a  page limit, which limited how much stuff could be in print and it is likely that at least most of the data related to the activity trends would have to have been left out and would end up on the web anyway. 

Anyway, I am looking into how the data can get a wider distribution.

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jul 8, 2020, at 09:39, Jay Baack <whereisjay@...> wrote:


I know I sent you a direct message Duffey, but I too agree that this was an excellent write up.  It is a travesty that this information is NOT included in the print version of QST.  A wealth of information and a lot of great data showing positive activity trends and band/mode utilization.  Great summaries like this NEED to be out in the public eye to generate more activity for all of us to benefit from.

Well done my man.   Coffee or drink of choice on me at Yuma 2021!  (Fingers crossed).

 - Jay N1AV

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:26 AM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
Thanks Mike, I appreciate the comments and they are well received here. Some times when I get bogged down writing these things I get discouraged and comments like yours make it all worthwhile.

I wanted to write a bit on how the use of FT8 has changed the contest, but I realized that I could not do that without writing about the history of the contest and how it has changed over the years. So, that was how that all came about.

When I first started roving I spent a long time studying various VHF propagation modes, particularly with regards to contesting. That led me to Joe’s article on using scatter to make more contacts at greater distances in the VHF contests. That article, though quantitative, still contains information that is useful today. Anyway, looking at past contest results as part of that I found the picture of 16 year old Joe and how he and his brother really changed VHF contesting. I filed that away for future use and that time finally came. It all fits together nicely, puts WSJT into perspective, and I think most importantly, it shows that it is not a recent development, but is obviously a result of Joe’s early experience in contesting.

With the quarantine at ARRL HQ, finding a copy of the picture suitable for the article turned out to be an effort for the editors.

Again, thanks for the kind words. - Duffey

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

> On Jul 8, 2020, at 09:02, Mike H <mph@...> wrote:
>
> The historical reference to Joe Taylor and his brother along with VHF contests of the past was excellent!
>
> Mike WB2FKO
>
>> On 7/8/20 9:19 AM, James Duffey wrote:
>> Thanks Jonesy.
>>
>> James Duffey KK6MC
>> Cedar Crest NM
>>
>>>> On Jul 8, 2020, at 06:46, Jonesy W3DHJ via groups.io <mailserver=jonz.net@groups.io> wrote:
>>>
>>> Duffey,
>>>
>>> That was one hell of a write-up you did for the 2020 ARRL JAN VHF!
>>> I can't even imagine the amount of time and effort that you put
>>> into that!
>>>
>>> I thank you.  I'm sure we all thank you.
>>> Good on you, mate!
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Jonesy
>>> --
>>>  Marvin L Jones     | W3DHJ      | W3DHJ  | https://W3DHJ.net/
>>>   Pueblo, Colorado  |  @         | Jonesy |     __ linux FreeBSD
>>>    38.238N 104.547W |   jonz.net | DM78rf | 73  SK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>





Re: 2020 JAN VHF

James Duffey
 

Jay, thanks for the kind words. I have contemplated doing a subset of this article with the activity data for the Contest Update e-mail newsletter or National Contesting Journal.  I think I would need to beef it up with data from the other contests though and that is going to take some more effort. 

When the results writeup was done in print, there was a  page limit, which limited how much stuff could be in print and it is likely that at least most of the data related to the activity trends would have to have been left out and would end up on the web anyway. 

Anyway, I am looking into how the data can get a wider distribution.

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jul 8, 2020, at 09:39, Jay Baack <whereisjay@...> wrote:


I know I sent you a direct message Duffey, but I too agree that this was an excellent write up.  It is a travesty that this information is NOT included in the print version of QST.  A wealth of information and a lot of great data showing positive activity trends and band/mode utilization.  Great summaries like this NEED to be out in the public eye to generate more activity for all of us to benefit from.

Well done my man.   Coffee or drink of choice on me at Yuma 2021!  (Fingers crossed).

 - Jay N1AV

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:26 AM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
Thanks Mike, I appreciate the comments and they are well received here. Some times when I get bogged down writing these things I get discouraged and comments like yours make it all worthwhile.

I wanted to write a bit on how the use of FT8 has changed the contest, but I realized that I could not do that without writing about the history of the contest and how it has changed over the years. So, that was how that all came about.

When I first started roving I spent a long time studying various VHF propagation modes, particularly with regards to contesting. That led me to Joe’s article on using scatter to make more contacts at greater distances in the VHF contests. That article, though quantitative, still contains information that is useful today. Anyway, looking at past contest results as part of that I found the picture of 16 year old Joe and how he and his brother really changed VHF contesting. I filed that away for future use and that time finally came. It all fits together nicely, puts WSJT into perspective, and I think most importantly, it shows that it is not a recent development, but is obviously a result of Joe’s early experience in contesting.

With the quarantine at ARRL HQ, finding a copy of the picture suitable for the article turned out to be an effort for the editors.

Again, thanks for the kind words. - Duffey

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

> On Jul 8, 2020, at 09:02, Mike H <mph@...> wrote:
>
> The historical reference to Joe Taylor and his brother along with VHF contests of the past was excellent!
>
> Mike WB2FKO
>
>> On 7/8/20 9:19 AM, James Duffey wrote:
>> Thanks Jonesy.
>>
>> James Duffey KK6MC
>> Cedar Crest NM
>>
>>>> On Jul 8, 2020, at 06:46, Jonesy W3DHJ via groups.io <mailserver=jonz.net@groups.io> wrote:
>>>
>>> Duffey,
>>>
>>> That was one hell of a write-up you did for the 2020 ARRL JAN VHF!
>>> I can't even imagine the amount of time and effort that you put
>>> into that!
>>>
>>> I thank you.  I'm sure we all thank you.
>>> Good on you, mate!
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Jonesy
>>> --
>>>  Marvin L Jones     | W3DHJ      | W3DHJ  | https://W3DHJ.net/
>>>   Pueblo, Colorado  |  @         | Jonesy |     __ linux FreeBSD
>>>    38.238N 104.547W |   jonz.net | DM78rf | 73  SK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>





Re: 2020 JAN VHF

Jay
 

I know I sent you a direct message Duffey, but I too agree that this was an excellent write up.  It is a travesty that this information is NOT included in the print version of QST.  A wealth of information and a lot of great data showing positive activity trends and band/mode utilization.  Great summaries like this NEED to be out in the public eye to generate more activity for all of us to benefit from.

Well done my man.   Coffee or drink of choice on me at Yuma 2021!  (Fingers crossed).

 - Jay N1AV

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:26 AM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
Thanks Mike, I appreciate the comments and they are well received here. Some times when I get bogged down writing these things I get discouraged and comments like yours make it all worthwhile.

I wanted to write a bit on how the use of FT8 has changed the contest, but I realized that I could not do that without writing about the history of the contest and how it has changed over the years. So, that was how that all came about.

When I first started roving I spent a long time studying various VHF propagation modes, particularly with regards to contesting. That led me to Joe’s article on using scatter to make more contacts at greater distances in the VHF contests. That article, though quantitative, still contains information that is useful today. Anyway, looking at past contest results as part of that I found the picture of 16 year old Joe and how he and his brother really changed VHF contesting. I filed that away for future use and that time finally came. It all fits together nicely, puts WSJT into perspective, and I think most importantly, it shows that it is not a recent development, but is obviously a result of Joe’s early experience in contesting.

With the quarantine at ARRL HQ, finding a copy of the picture suitable for the article turned out to be an effort for the editors.

Again, thanks for the kind words. - Duffey

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

> On Jul 8, 2020, at 09:02, Mike H <mph@...> wrote:
>
> The historical reference to Joe Taylor and his brother along with VHF contests of the past was excellent!
>
> Mike WB2FKO
>
>> On 7/8/20 9:19 AM, James Duffey wrote:
>> Thanks Jonesy.
>>
>> James Duffey KK6MC
>> Cedar Crest NM
>>
>>>> On Jul 8, 2020, at 06:46, Jonesy W3DHJ via groups.io <mailserver=jonz.net@groups.io> wrote:
>>>
>>> Duffey,
>>>
>>> That was one hell of a write-up you did for the 2020 ARRL JAN VHF!
>>> I can't even imagine the amount of time and effort that you put
>>> into that!
>>>
>>> I thank you.  I'm sure we all thank you.
>>> Good on you, mate!
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Jonesy
>>> --
>>>  Marvin L Jones     | W3DHJ      | W3DHJ  | https://W3DHJ.net/
>>>   Pueblo, Colorado  |  @         | Jonesy |     __ linux FreeBSD
>>>    38.238N 104.547W |   jonz.net | DM78rf | 73  SK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>





Re: 2020 JAN VHF

James Duffey
 

Thanks Mike, I appreciate the comments and they are well received here. Some times when I get bogged down writing these things I get discouraged and comments like yours make it all worthwhile.

I wanted to write a bit on how the use of FT8 has changed the contest, but I realized that I could not do that without writing about the history of the contest and how it has changed over the years. So, that was how that all came about.

When I first started roving I spent a long time studying various VHF propagation modes, particularly with regards to contesting. That led me to Joe’s article on using scatter to make more contacts at greater distances in the VHF contests. That article, though quantitative, still contains information that is useful today. Anyway, looking at past contest results as part of that I found the picture of 16 year old Joe and how he and his brother really changed VHF contesting. I filed that away for future use and that time finally came. It all fits together nicely, puts WSJT into perspective, and I think most importantly, it shows that it is not a recent development, but is obviously a result of Joe’s early experience in contesting.

With the quarantine at ARRL HQ, finding a copy of the picture suitable for the article turned out to be an effort for the editors.

Again, thanks for the kind words. - Duffey

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jul 8, 2020, at 09:02, Mike H <mph@sportscliche.com> wrote:

The historical reference to Joe Taylor and his brother along with VHF contests of the past was excellent!

Mike WB2FKO

On 7/8/20 9:19 AM, James Duffey wrote:
Thanks Jonesy.

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jul 8, 2020, at 06:46, Jonesy W3DHJ via groups.io <mailserver=jonz.net@groups.io> wrote:
Duffey,

That was one hell of a write-up you did for the 2020 ARRL JAN VHF!
I can't even imagine the amount of time and effort that you put
into that!

I thank you. I'm sure we all thank you.
Good on you, mate!

73
Jonesy
--
Marvin L Jones | W3DHJ | W3DHJ | https://W3DHJ.net/
Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | __ linux FreeBSD
38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | 73 SK




Re: 2020 JAN VHF

Mike WB2FKO
 

The historical reference to Joe Taylor and his brother along with VHF contests of the past was excellent!

Mike WB2FKO

On 7/8/20 9:19 AM, James Duffey wrote:
Thanks Jonesy.

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jul 8, 2020, at 06:46, Jonesy W3DHJ via groups.io <mailserver=jonz.net@groups.io> wrote:

Duffey,

That was one hell of a write-up you did for the 2020 ARRL JAN VHF!
I can't even imagine the amount of time and effort that you put
into that!

I thank you. I'm sure we all thank you.
Good on you, mate!

73
Jonesy
--
Marvin L Jones | W3DHJ | W3DHJ | https://W3DHJ.net/
Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | __ linux FreeBSD
38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | 73 SK



Re: 2020 JAN VHF

James Duffey
 

Thanks Jonesy.

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jul 8, 2020, at 06:46, Jonesy W3DHJ via groups.io <mailserver=jonz.net@groups.io> wrote:

Duffey,

That was one hell of a write-up you did for the 2020 ARRL JAN VHF!
I can't even imagine the amount of time and effort that you put
into that!

I thank you. I'm sure we all thank you.
Good on you, mate!

73
Jonesy
--
Marvin L Jones | W3DHJ | W3DHJ | https://W3DHJ.net/
Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | __ linux FreeBSD
38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | 73 SK



2020 JAN VHF

Jonesy W3DHJ
 

Duffey,

That was one hell of a write-up you did for the 2020 ARRL JAN VHF!
I can't even imagine the amount of time and effort that you put
into that!

I thank you. I'm sure we all thank you.
Good on you, mate!

73
Jonesy
--
Marvin L Jones | W3DHJ | W3DHJ | https://W3DHJ.net/
Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | __ linux FreeBSD
38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | 73 SK


Expanded Results for ARRL January 2020 VHF contest available on line

James Duffey
 

The expanded results writeup for the ARRL January 2020 VHF contest Is available here: < https://contests.arrl.org/ContestResults/2020/Jan-VHF-2020-FinalFullResults.pdf >

Congratulations to Rocky Mountain Division category winners, AA5PR/r (Limited Rover), W9RM ( Single Operator, High Power), and KC7QY (Single Operator 3 Band). - Duffey

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM


Re: FM simplex during VHF contests

Bill
 


Obviously if someone is there no, but if the frequency is open I'll call on 2m and 70cm calling frequency a few times... But I won't "camp" there, if I start getting a pile up ill have everyone follow me off frequency.

 73
Ryan - N7OW 


On Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 5:13 PM John Klem <klemjf@...> wrote:
Are there points to be had on FM simplex during the contests?

If so, what's the etiquette for getting them?  I suspect that calling
"CQ contest" on 146.52 might not fly....

John AA5PR





Re: June contest: WB2FKO

Bill
 

Well done Mike!

Bill W7QQ

On Jun 16, 2020, at 10:03 AM, Mike WB2FKO <mph@sportscliche.com> wrote:
Greetings from EL89.

The permanent home station is still many months from completion, so my plan for the June contest was to participate in the K5QE multi-op in EM31. Current travel conditions made this a risky proposition, so I opted to stay home and setup a 6M5X 6m beam on a 15 ft mast in front of the house (see photo). It is supported by a drive-up mount that I saved from my rovering days. The primary objective was to assess how the new QTH would work for VHF amateur radio, ie. noise, activity, propagation, etc.

Noise seems to be non-existent compared to our old Albuquerque QTH. No birdies were detected in any direction on 6m and I was able to confidently operate without the noise blanker. Pancake-flat Florida has no mountains, allowing for low take-off angles. I added 10 new 6m DXCC in about 3 days with this modest, rover-like setup and yes -- all with FT8. The downside, of course, is the weather. I was QRT from the contest at various points for lightning and water getting into a cable connection. It rains a lot here.

The contest kept me very busy. There was a pipeline of propagation up into the FM and FN grids for almost the entire weekend. It's no secret that there is a lot of VHF activity in the New England area, but a contest reveals just how much. It felt like I was playing whack-a-mole as new stations kept popping up.

It was also nice to have lots of activity in adjacent grids. When Es propagation faded, folks from around Florida and south Georgia were busy working each other on FT8. The N4SVC contest station is just north of me in EM80. They did not bother me much, except during Sunday morning meteor scatter. I have a hunch it was a new operator because the sequences were set for 30 seconds instead of the established 15 seconds on 50.260. This QRM killed half the receive window, but I was able to sneak-in 5 MSK144 QSOs when their antenna was pointed sufficiently away from me and/or the op was on bathroom break. On-the-job-training is probably not a good idea during a contest with a powerful station.

I used FT8, FT4, SSB, and even some cw to make 323 QSOs with 129 multipliers. I eventually learned the limitations of my small station with FT8, not attempting signals weaker than -8 dB. I simply wasn't being heard. The majority of contacts were made using FT4 when 6m was wide-open, probably close to 150 QSOs. Excellent propagation, chaos, and the slow slog on 50.313 eventually pushed digital ops to 50.318 and there was plenty of activity there. It was efficient and orderly with almost everybody displaying excellent contest etiquette. I used the color highlighting in the FT4 activity window to great advantage as I quickly spotted and worked new multipliers, also answering the random callers. My last two mults came quite literally in the final 60 seconds of the contest when the band was open to the midwest.

EL89 is not a particularly rare grid, although it appeared to be in some demand as I got small pileups calling me on ssb. Several thanked me for the new multiplier. Besides me, there were at least two other EL89 stations active on 6m during the contest. The grids in central and south Florida have far more activity.

New Mexico stations worked: AA5B and WS5N. Heard but not worked (to the best of my recollection): KC7QY, K5TA, W3IH, and AA5PR/R in DM73.

73 Mike WB2FKO



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Re: FM simplex during VHF contests

James Duffey
 

John - In my experience FM QSOs around Albuquerque are kind of hit or miss, unless you can catch someone on simplex and break in on their QSO.  I have had luck calling CQ on 146.52 and 146.58 (better luck), but this past contest I didn’t work anyone that way. In more than one contest, I have returned to the Albuquerque area a bit before the contest ended and called CQ on FM after I had picked up the few SSB stations I have not worked earlier. One year I worked about a dozen QSOs that way.

One thing to do when asking stations of they have any other bands after they have said no, I ask not even FM and get a few QSOs that way. For example, stations with 6M only SSB/CW capability usually have 2M or 440 FM and they can often be persuaded to QSY to those bands for a few QSO points. 

Jim, KC7QY has also scared up some FM activity for me in Socorro from guys who did not have SSB/CW.  

I have had more success working FM by calling CQ on simplex in the Phoenix and El Paso regions. With two ops, one driving, it is possible to work FM in the bigger metropolitan areas while driving through. Still not a lot of QSOs though. 

If you do work FM stations at long distances, they are often weak and can be more easily copied with the squelch off. 

The ARRL kind of killed off FM contesting, at least away from the populous areas, when, for a long time,  they prohibited QSOs on 146.52, the national calling frequency. They are trying to bring it back with the SOFM category. 

 Sorry this is a bit late, but I hope it helps. - Duffey KK6MC

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jun 19, 2020, at 17:58, John Klem <klemjf@...> wrote:

Thank you all for the info and good advice.  Seems worth a try next time I'm out but not too far from civilization.

John AA5PR


Re: FM simplex during VHF contests

John Klem
 

Thank you all for the info and good advice.  Seems worth a try next time I'm out but not too far from civilization.

John AA5PR


Re: FM simplex during VHF contests

Jay
 

What Bill said- and be prepared to talk for a few minutes.. and then the guys buddy who you are working gets back on the mic and you chat with him.
Ex..
Hey I am out here in XX where are you? Oh ok that’s dm5x right ? Cool! What do you have for gear there... etc.

A lot of these guys will not answer to someone calling CQ contest.

Jay N1AV

On Jun 18, 2020, at 9:03 PM, Bill <bill4070@gmail.com> wrote:

Good question John,

I would say “AA5PR CQ simplex” and then say your location, not your gridsquare.

You’ll have a chance to explain the exchange once someone calls. Some folks are put off by contesters and will not answer. Sometimes helps if you slow down to ragchew pace.

GL Bill W7QQ
On Jun 18, 2020, at 6:13 PM, John Klem <klemjf@gmail.com> wrote:

Are there points to be had on FM simplex during the contests?

If so, what's the etiquette for getting them? I suspect that calling "CQ contest" on 146.52 might not fly....

John AA5PR





Re: FM simplex during VHF contests

Bill
 

Good question John,

I would say “AA5PR CQ simplex” and then say your location, not your gridsquare.

You’ll have a chance to explain the exchange once someone calls. Some folks are put off by contesters and will not answer. Sometimes helps if you slow down to ragchew pace.

GL Bill W7QQ

On Jun 18, 2020, at 6:13 PM, John Klem <klemjf@gmail.com> wrote:

Are there points to be had on FM simplex during the contests?

If so, what's the etiquette for getting them? I suspect that calling "CQ contest" on 146.52 might not fly....

John AA5PR




Re: FM simplex during VHF contests

Mike WB2FKO
 

I have had decent results in Albuquerque with FM simplex. Try the following: i) There is usually someone hanging out on 146.580. You can often move them to UHF simplex. ii) Make an announcement in real-time on the Megalink repeater system, ie. location (grid) and simplex frequency where you can QSY. I have had zero success doing this on the various club repeaters. iii) Sometimes the contest will coincide with the once-a-month Sunday evening simplex net on 146.400. You can run stations after the net, but explain what the exchange is beforehand.

Only ii) has any hope of working outside of DM65.

WB2FKO

On 6/18/20 9:03 PM, N7OW wrote:
Obviously if someone is there no, but if the frequency is open I'll call on 2m and 70cm calling frequency a few times... But I won't "camp" there, if I start getting a pile up ill have everyone follow me off frequency.

 73
Ryan - N7OW 

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 5:13 PM John Klem <klemjf@...> wrote:
Are there points to be had on FM simplex during the contests?

If so, what's the etiquette for getting them?  I suspect that calling
"CQ contest" on 146.52 might not fly....

John AA5PR




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