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Re: Central States VHF Society Conference Table

Michael Daly
 

Hi all,

This year’s conference conflicts with a family visit from son and his children from Arlington V so I won’t be going to Lincoln.

Mike, n5sj

 

 

From: nmvhf@groups.io [mailto:nmvhf@groups.io] On Behalf Of James Duffey
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 2:02 PM
To: nmvhf@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nmvhf] Central States VHF Society Conference Table

 

Check with Bill. Stock was low last I heard. He would be happy to sell you one if we have them. 

James Duffey KK6MC

Cedar Crest NM


On Jul 3, 2019, at 13:48, Alden Oyer <atoyer@...> wrote:

Any coffee mugs to sell?

 

Regardless, have a great trip.

 

Cheers,

Alden, AG5S 


On Jul 3, 2019, at 13:36, Bill Mader <billamader@...> wrote:

Good luck to you there Duffey!  Have a safe, fun trip.

 

73, Bill Mader, K8TE

W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 7-15 Sep 2019

ARRL New Mexico Section Manager

ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio

Duke City Hamfest BoD www.dukecityhamfest.org 20-22 Sep 2019

President, Albuquerque DX Association 

 

 

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:32 PM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:

I have asked for a table at the CSVHF swap night with the notion to promote the NMVHF society and the Worked All NM grids. I was thinking of putting together a small display including a NM map with all the grids marked off on it and perhaps some handouts. We can also sell tee-shirts. If anyone else has any ideas, let me know, and for those of you who are going, some help in manning the table would be nice. - Duffey KK6MC 

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM



Re: Central States VHF Society Conference Table

KC7QY
 

Duffey,

I'll be there and will help with manning the table.

Jim KC7QY


On Wednesday, July 3, 2019, 01:32:49 PM MDT, James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:


I have asked for a table at the CSVHF swap night with the notion to promote the NMVHF society and the Worked All NM grids. I was thinking of putting together a small display including a NM map with all the grids marked off on it and perhaps some handouts. We can also sell tee-shirts. If anyone else has any ideas, let me know, and for those of you who are going, some help in manning the table would be nice. - Duffey KK6MC

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM



Re: Central States VHF Society Conference Table

Mike WB2FKO
 

Note that KK6MC will be representing in the tech sessions as well, giving a talk on Moxon antennas.  Mike


Re: Central States VHF Society Conference Table

Bill
 

Duffey,

Glad you took the initiative.  I'll bring the banner, t shirts and any remaining coffee cups.  The NM grid award is a good idea.  I'll take a turn at the table.

73 Bill W7QQ


On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:32 PM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
I have asked for a table at the CSVHF swap night with the notion to promote the NMVHF society and the Worked All NM grids. I was thinking of putting together a small display including a NM map with all the grids marked off on it and perhaps some handouts. We can also sell tee-shirts. If anyone else has any ideas, let me know, and for those of you who are going, some help in manning the table would be nice. - Duffey KK6MC 

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM




Re: Central States VHF Society Conference Table

James Duffey
 

If we have some, we will sell them. 

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jul 3, 2019, at 14:35, Alden Oyer <atoyer@...> wrote:

I have one. Thought they could be sold with the tee shirts. 

Alden, AG5S 

On Jul 3, 2019, at 14:02, James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:

Check with Bill. Stock was low last I heard. He would be happy to sell you one if we have them. 

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jul 3, 2019, at 13:48, Alden Oyer <atoyer@...> wrote:

Any coffee mugs to sell?

Regardless, have a great trip.

Cheers,
Alden, AG5S 

On Jul 3, 2019, at 13:36, Bill Mader <billamader@...> wrote:

Good luck to you there Duffey!  Have a safe, fun trip.

73, Bill Mader, K8TE
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 7-15 Sep 2019
ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio
Duke City Hamfest BoD www.dukecityhamfest.org 20-22 Sep 2019
President, Albuquerque DX Association 


On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:32 PM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
I have asked for a table at the CSVHF swap night with the notion to promote the NMVHF society and the Worked All NM grids. I was thinking of putting together a small display including a NM map with all the grids marked off on it and perhaps some handouts. We can also sell tee-shirts. If anyone else has any ideas, let me know, and for those of you who are going, some help in manning the table would be nice. - Duffey KK6MC 

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM




Re: Central States VHF Society Conference Table

Alden Oyer
 

I have one. Thought they could be sold with the tee shirts. 

Alden, AG5S 

On Jul 3, 2019, at 14:02, James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:

Check with Bill. Stock was low last I heard. He would be happy to sell you one if we have them. 

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jul 3, 2019, at 13:48, Alden Oyer <atoyer@...> wrote:

Any coffee mugs to sell?

Regardless, have a great trip.

Cheers,
Alden, AG5S 

On Jul 3, 2019, at 13:36, Bill Mader <billamader@...> wrote:

Good luck to you there Duffey!  Have a safe, fun trip.

73, Bill Mader, K8TE
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 7-15 Sep 2019
ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio
Duke City Hamfest BoD www.dukecityhamfest.org 20-22 Sep 2019
President, Albuquerque DX Association 


On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:32 PM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
I have asked for a table at the CSVHF swap night with the notion to promote the NMVHF society and the Worked All NM grids. I was thinking of putting together a small display including a NM map with all the grids marked off on it and perhaps some handouts. We can also sell tee-shirts. If anyone else has any ideas, let me know, and for those of you who are going, some help in manning the table would be nice. - Duffey KK6MC 

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM




Re: Central States VHF Society Conference Table

James Duffey
 

Check with Bill. Stock was low last I heard. He would be happy to sell you one if we have them. 

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jul 3, 2019, at 13:48, Alden Oyer <atoyer@...> wrote:

Any coffee mugs to sell?

Regardless, have a great trip.

Cheers,
Alden, AG5S 

On Jul 3, 2019, at 13:36, Bill Mader <billamader@...> wrote:

Good luck to you there Duffey!  Have a safe, fun trip.

73, Bill Mader, K8TE
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 7-15 Sep 2019
ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio
Duke City Hamfest BoD www.dukecityhamfest.org 20-22 Sep 2019
President, Albuquerque DX Association 


On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:32 PM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
I have asked for a table at the CSVHF swap night with the notion to promote the NMVHF society and the Worked All NM grids. I was thinking of putting together a small display including a NM map with all the grids marked off on it and perhaps some handouts. We can also sell tee-shirts. If anyone else has any ideas, let me know, and for those of you who are going, some help in manning the table would be nice. - Duffey KK6MC 

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM




Re: Central States VHF Society Conference Table

Alden Oyer
 

Any coffee mugs to sell?

Regardless, have a great trip.

Cheers,
Alden, AG5S 

On Jul 3, 2019, at 13:36, Bill Mader <billamader@...> wrote:

Good luck to you there Duffey!  Have a safe, fun trip.

73, Bill Mader, K8TE
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 7-15 Sep 2019
ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio
Duke City Hamfest BoD www.dukecityhamfest.org 20-22 Sep 2019
President, Albuquerque DX Association 


On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:32 PM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
I have asked for a table at the CSVHF swap night with the notion to promote the NMVHF society and the Worked All NM grids. I was thinking of putting together a small display including a NM map with all the grids marked off on it and perhaps some handouts. We can also sell tee-shirts. If anyone else has any ideas, let me know, and for those of you who are going, some help in manning the table would be nice. - Duffey KK6MC 

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM




Re: Central States VHF Society Conference Table

Bill Mader
 

Good luck to you there Duffey!  Have a safe, fun trip.

73, Bill Mader, K8TE
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 7-15 Sep 2019
ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio
Duke City Hamfest BoD www.dukecityhamfest.org 20-22 Sep 2019
President, Albuquerque DX Association 


On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:32 PM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
I have asked for a table at the CSVHF swap night with the notion to promote the NMVHF society and the Worked All NM grids. I was thinking of putting together a small display including a NM map with all the grids marked off on it and perhaps some handouts. We can also sell tee-shirts. If anyone else has any ideas, let me know, and for those of you who are going, some help in manning the table would be nice. - Duffey KK6MC 

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM




Central States VHF Society Conference Table

James Duffey
 

I have asked for a table at the CSVHF swap night with the notion to promote the NMVHF society and the Worked All NM grids. I was thinking of putting together a small display including a NM map with all the grids marked off on it and perhaps some handouts. We can also sell tee-shirts. If anyone else has any ideas, let me know, and for those of you who are going, some help in manning the table would be nice. - Duffey KK6MC

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM


New Mexico QSO Party -- 2019 Results posted

Brian Mileshosky
 

Greetings --

The 2019 New Mexico QSO Party, which took place last April, was another great success. Hams from all over New Mexico, the United States, and the world took to HF and 6 meters for a day of fun and enjoyment. A huge thank you goes to the members and leadership of the Valencia County Amateur Radio Association who sponsored this year's event, as well as to the individuals and clubs who sponsored this year's plaque awards. And, of course, to every person and ham club who participated in the QSO Party.

Here are some statistics from this year's event:

— Logs submitted: 129
— Total NMQP QSOs logged: 4,392
— Unique New Mexico stations logged: 89
— New Mexico logs submitted: 48
— New Mexico club affiliations reported in logs: 14
— New Mexico counties activated: 30 of 33 (not activated: Catron, Colfax, Hidalgo)
— US states logged: 49 of 50
— Canadian provinces logged: 7 of 13
— Countries/DXCC entities logged: 11

Complete results, broken down by operating category as well as special awards can be found under the "Results" link at www.newmexicoqsoparty.org Pictures contributed by those who participated this year will be added to the album found by clicking on the “Photos” link.

Congratulations to all! Plaques and participant certificates will be produced and delivered in the coming weeks.

The New Mexico QSO Party returns on the second Saturday of April 2020 -- we hope you and your club will join the fun.

73,
Brian N5ZGT


Re: KK6MC talk on VHF at ADXA meeting 1730 MDT June 26 at Copper Canyon Cafe

James Duffey
 

Thanks Bill.

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jun 25, 2019, at 11:15, Bill <bill4070@...> wrote:

Copper Canyon Cafe is located at 5455 Gibson Blvd SE in Albuquerque. That's between cross streets San Mateo and San Pedro.

Bill W7QQ

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:13 AM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
I will be presenting an introduction to VHF operation, mostly 6M, at the Albuquerque DX Association meeting this Wednesday, June 26. You do not need to be a member to attend. All are welcome. The meeting starts at 1730 with dinner, on your own. The presentation will begin between 1830 and 1900 and last about an hour.

I hope to see you there! - KK6MC

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM




Re: KK6MC talk on VHF at ADXA meeting 1730 MDT June 26 at Copper Canyon Cafe

Bill
 

Copper Canyon Cafe is located at 5455 Gibson Blvd SE in Albuquerque. That's between cross streets San Mateo and San Pedro.

Bill W7QQ


On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:13 AM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
I will be presenting an introduction to VHF operation, mostly 6M, at the Albuquerque DX Association meeting this Wednesday, June 26. You do not need to be a member to attend. All are welcome. The meeting starts at 1730 with dinner, on your own. The presentation will begin between 1830 and 1900 and last about an hour.

I hope to see you there! - KK6MC

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM




KK6MC talk on VHF at ADXA meeting 1730 MDT June 26 at Copper Canyon Cafe

James Duffey
 

I will be presenting an introduction to VHF operation, mostly 6M, at the Albuquerque DX Association meeting this Wednesday, June 26. You do not need to be a member to attend. All are welcome. The meeting starts at 1730 with dinner, on your own. The presentation will begin between 1830 and 1900 and last about an hour.

I hope to see you there! - KK6MC

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM


Re: KK6MC/r in June VHF contest

Keith Morehouse
 

...dupes are ignored in the scoring process.  Both on your end and at the ARRL.  Dupes do not alter your score.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG


On Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 6:58 PM John Klem <klemjf@...> wrote:
Perhaps the dupe fear is related to the apocalyptic warning that at least my logging software issues when I'm about to enter one?  Please tell me and perhaps a few other inexperienced contesters why we shouldn't worry.  I'm guessing dupes are ignored somewhere in the scoring process?  Are they properly ignored in the score my logging software generates?

John, AA5PR


Re: KK6MC/r in June VHF contest

Bill
 

John,

It's always best to log QSOs reported as dupes wherever a conflict is indicated.  Unlike some contests, there is no penalty for dupes in ARRL VHF contests. It is an unfortunate  certainty that one of the stations will miss the score when either station indicates there's a dupe. On the few occasions I've run into someone hard headed I simply say that I'll look into it, may I have your grid please so I can verify my findings.  I've never run into someone who does not provide that info even though he/she may fight over whether or not they'll "work you again". A second approach is to ask for the date/time at which they have you listed as a contact.  Most logging programs provide that info. Real dupes are not counted for score or a mult.

That said, always, ALWAYS log the latest contact, even if you find a log error. There's nothing to lose.

NMVHF Society has a subject matter expert covering contesting and logging (W9RM Keith) if you want to learn more about the intricacies.

73 Bill W7QQ


On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 5:58 PM John Klem <klemjf@...> wrote:
Perhaps the dupe fear is related to the apocalyptic warning that at least my logging software issues when I'm about to enter one?  Please tell me and perhaps a few other inexperienced contesters why we shouldn't worry.  I'm guessing dupes are ignored somewhere in the scoring process?  Are they properly ignored in the score my logging software generates?

John, AA5PR


Re: KK6MC/r in June VHF contest

John Klem
 

Perhaps the dupe fear is related to the apocalyptic warning that at least my logging software issues when I'm about to enter one?  Please tell me and perhaps a few other inexperienced contesters why we shouldn't worry.  I'm guessing dupes are ignored somewhere in the scoring process?  Are they properly ignored in the score my logging software generates?

John, AA5PR


Re: [VHFcontesting] Digital Modes (FT8) in January 2019 Contest

Jonesy W3DHJ
 

On Wed, 19 Jun 2019, Dave Miller wrote:

Nomex suit on
I think the simple solution is to make FT8 contacts worth 0.001 pts per QSO.
Keep 6M in contest as when it opens it one of few wasy to get mults when
you live on BC
Solves all problem.
Nomex suit off
Dave
VE7HR
hmmmmmm....
Interesting.

I had thought about
Points per Contact:
CW 3
Ph 2
Digital 1

Jonesy
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Re: [VHFcontesting] Digital Modes (FT8) in January 2019 Contest

Keith Morehouse
 

Where I live, EVERY contact on 2M and above is DX.  There may be 5-10 local QSOs to be made, but many of them are only available because I moved them from 6.  The closest concentration of 'above 6M ops' ( "Above's" ?? ) is 250 miles away.  I work more 2M stations on meteor scatter then locals.

I live and die by 6M openings and, like Paul, I can be nationally competitive in June if 6M cooperates.  I'm also a little strange, evidently (according to some), because I do VHF contests specifically to run rate.  Massive rate.... I'm addicted to rate.  This is why I have issues with FT8 attracting a lot of ops off of SSB, but that's not what this thread is about.

Dropping 6M would be the death of serious VHF contesting for me and many others.  A lot of the big signals you hear on 6 in the western half of the county ONLY work 6.  We would all be gone or, at most, we would be giving out token multipliers on 2M scatter.  Knee jerk reactions have seriously hurt VHF contesting in the past (revised Rover rules....), don't make the same mistake.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG


On Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 11:44 AM Paul Kiesel via VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting@...> wrote:
 I've finally come to the realization that digital is here to stay. I hate that not so many SSB and CW contacts can be made now during the contests. It's not that they are superior to FT8, but that operating in the contest is a hell of a lot less fun without them.

In recent years' June contests, I've competed in the Single Op/High Power category against all others in the same category. But, I've operated solely on 50 MHz because it's a challenge to beatothers who run many or all of the higher bands. It used to bother me a lot that I could beat others both in number of QSOs and number of multipliers and still not win because of the points advantages given for use of bands 222 MHz and above. Now, I welcome this challenge, even though I know I will not win in the category. But, the guys running all the high bands during the contest know they are competing against me. This makes operating on the higher bands an advantageous opportunity to my competition. The result of this is that they will make as many contacts as they can on all available bands while being careful to not neglect 50 MHz. Planning and coordination are important for them.

This is not the first time that people have suggested eliminating 50 MHz from the June contest. I don't think dumping six meters is going to solve anything, but make things worse. Rather, havingall VHF and higher bands as relevant in the contest is the way to go.
What bothers me more than the reduced use of SSB and CW in the contests is the fact that the digital modes are restricted to audio bandwidth zones. This could be considered an efficient use of spectrum, but actually the conditions during a contest or band opening in that narrow a zone are nothing less than horrid. All one needs is one strong station in the other FT8 sequence to ruin any possibility to compete or decode weak DX. And this problem is not going to go away by trying to enforce which stations call on even and which call on odd.

It may be time to think about rearranging the rules, but eliminating 50 MHz from the June contest would be a bad mistake. It would be better to consider either limiting the number of contacts that can be made using a single mode or by maybe having a suite of frequencies wherein FT8 QSOs could be made. As an example 50.310 to 50.320.

The June contest is unique and should be kept the way it is as much as possible. You shouldn't remove a band from the contest because people are choosing to use it!
73, Paul K7CW



    On Wednesday, June 19, 2019, 2:46:24 PM UTC, JamesDuffey <jamesduffey@...> wrote: 

 Chris - Thanks for your comments on the impact of FT8 on the January contest.

To your first point, I don’t think that the increase in 6M activity is due entirely to casual ops using digital modes (FT8) instead of SSB and CW. For one thing, this year there was a significant increase, about 19%  in the number of logs submitted in the contest over 2018 while the total number of QSOs in the contest only grew by about 3%; essentially remaining the same. If the digital mode ops are all casual they do a much better job of submitting logs than do the casual SSB ops.

The actual number, as well as the fraction of QSOs on all bands 144MHz and above decreased significantly over 2018. This strongly suggests that the increase in digital (FT8) activity came at the expense of QSOs on the higher bands.

I think that the increase in activity in the January Contest is good and welcome. I think that the decrease in the activity on the higher bands is not good. To me, it appears that both of these effects are due to the digital modes, in particular FT8. Interestingly enough, there does seem to be a significant number of FT8 ops, who once they saw how straight forward it was to make  digital QSOs, also tried MSK144, thereby increasing that activity as well.

I am not sure what the answer is, but I fear that all the VHF contests will become dominated by 6M, not just the June contest when Es is in. Perhaps it is time to rethink the contesting paradigm. - Duffey KK6MC


James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

> I have been wondering for a while where the FT8 VHF contest ops are
> coming from and if perhaps some of the community's concern is overblown.
> I see two possibilities:
>
> * Casual ops who have that HF+6 radio and get on to play around for a
> couple hours, get some new grids towards VUCC, etc.  In the past, these
> people would have done the same thing but on SSB.  I have a feeling her and
> there's a lot of them.  They are not serious contesters and were never
> going to be people you could work through the bands with.
>
> * More serious contesters who are wanting to try something new and are
> focusing much of their time on making digital contacts.  I feel like
> there are relatively few of these people due to their likely time and
> money investment in having gear for other bands.
>
> The first group wasn't going to have 2m, 70cm, and up beams and amps at
> home.  Not having digital modes available means we are losing points and
> some mults by not being able to work this group, but I don't have any
> concerns that I am missing higher band contacts due to the move from SSB
> to FT8 here.
>
> The second group is the one to be concerned with.  I haven't been here
> long enough to know what the answer is, so hopefully someone else does.
>
> Personally, my roving plan for at least future June contests is to have
> two ops.  One op will essentially be a mult station, dedicated to
> watching 6m on SSB and FT8 during openings (and also watching for when
> those openings occur).  The other op will be the points station and
> handle all the other bands.
>
> --
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Re: KK6MC/r in June VHF contest

Keith Morehouse
 

Golden Log syndrome ??

-RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG


On Tue, Jun 18, 2019, 11:55 PM Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:
I wish I had a recording of this exchange in the June contest, 6-meter phone. It was kinda funny, kinda irritating. 

K9GX: CQ contest CQ contest this is K 9 Germany X-ray (I think that was the call).
Me: Alpha alpha five bravo.
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe.
Me: You’re not in my log. 
Him: I can’t work you. CQ contest k 9 Germany xray.
Me: You’re not in my log, can we please work? delta mike 65
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe and I can’t work you. 
Me: You’re going to send in a log with me in it, I’m going to send in a log without you in it, and you’re going to be penalized. Can’t we just work now?
Him: I’m not going to argue with you, and I’m not going to work you. Cq cq cq contest...

All of that took at least 5 times longer that it would’ve to just work me. 

VHF is hard, I guess. 

    -Bruce AA5B




On Tuesday, June 18, 2019, James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:

K9YR was kind enough to forward these recordings of me in the June VHF contest from DM66. K9YR is in EN52. Conditions were very good. - Duffey KK6MC



James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM