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CQ VHF and contest rule

Jonesy W3DHJ
 

CQ WW VHF says: "Participation is limited to club members residing
within a 250 mile radius circle from the center of club area."

Research shows "Flight distance from Albuquerque to Pueblo (Albuquerque
International Sunport – Pueblo Memorial Airport) is 253 miles."

I live 3-plus miles south of the PUB airport.
And, note: CQ WW VHF does say "residing"!
Therefore I _reside_ less than 249 miles from the ABQ airport.
However I obviously do not rover where I reside.

I'll be /ROVER around 25 miles south of the airport _AND_
about 55 miles east ( +/- 5 miles around 38°N, 104°W ) which
probably is sometimes < 250 miles and other times > 250 miles distant.

Just where has the "... center of club area" been defined by the NMVHF?

In the past I have added the NMVHF Club on my CQ WW VHF contest entries.
But, maybe I've been in error?


Curious I am:
What would a 5-Land rover do if they started at their club center in
Brownsville, Texas and rovered all the way to International Falls,
Minnesota?

Curious minds,
Jonesy
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Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | __ linux FreeBSD
38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | 73 SK


Re: June VHF Contest

James Duffey
 

I’ in South Dakota. - Duffey

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jun 12, 2022, at 14:13, Tom Ellis <tl_ellis@...> wrote:

So,

Where is everyone around the Albuquerque area for the June VHF Contest?

Tom
K5TEE







Re: June VHF Contest

Tom Ellis
 

So,

Where is everyone around the Albuquerque area for the June VHF Contest?

Tom
K5TEE


AA5PR not in contest

John Klem
 

Unfortunately, I was not paying attention back in January when family plans were being made for the summer, so while I might be driving through some interesting grids this weekend I won't be operating from them.  Good luck to all and I hope to catch you in July.

John, AA5PR


June VHF Contest plans this weekend

Tom N7GP
 

To All...
I will be starting Saturday morning ,,in DM35 At 1200 UTC,, BEFORE contest starts on 50.265 MSK144 me 1st CM on and also FT8 around 2000 Hz. I will be there until at least 1900 UTC which is after contest starts. If conditions are good, I will be there longer,

Then I will move to DM44, DM34, DM33,
..returning to DM42 and will be running MSK 50.260 from DM42, and DM32

Sunday morning I will drive to DM31 and be setup on MSK 50.265 and ft8 , moving to DM32 , then DM33, DM42, and then DM43 and will circle those grids spending 2 hours in each until the end of the contest

I will have all bands 6 meters thru 10 GHz ,,

Digital modes on 6, 2, and 432 only..

Cw, SSB and FM on ALL bands,,

I will be on Rover Slack and email and text

And cell# is 419-370-8802....so please get with me for ANY skeds or if you want to try a contact..
Good luck to everyone..
Hope to work MANY of you ,,
Tom
N7GP/R
ex WA8WZG
6 meter Beacon 50.070 DM42dw


Re: KK6MC will not be in June VHF+ contest

Bill
 

Jim,

Vy sorry to hear your Dad has left for greener pastures. I wish I could have met him. That’s a big loss. Hope you’re doing ok with it. Best to you, Ginger and your girls.

I’ll send ID news next go round.

Bill W7QQ 


On Jun 8, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Bill Mader <billamader@...> wrote:


Our prayers are with you and your family Duffey!

73, Bill Mader, K8TE
ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio
Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association 
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 10-18 Sep 2022
New Mexico QSO Party 8 Apr 2023
Duke City Hamfest Chairman www.dukecityhamfest.org 15-17 Sep 2023


On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 2:11 PM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
I will miss the June VHF contest this year. My dad died last week and the funeral was yesterday. I am in South Dakota now taking care of things. I will miss working all of you. Good luck in the contest! - Duffey





Re: KK6MC will not be in June VHF+ contest

Bill Mader, K8TE
 

Our prayers are with you and your family Duffey!

73, Bill Mader, K8TE
ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio
Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association 
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 10-18 Sep 2022
New Mexico QSO Party 8 Apr 2023
Duke City Hamfest Chairman www.dukecityhamfest.org 15-17 Sep 2023


On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 2:11 PM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
I will miss the June VHF contest this year. My dad died last week and the funeral was yesterday. I am in South Dakota now taking care of things. I will miss working all of you. Good luck in the contest! - Duffey





KK6MC will not be in June VHF+ contest

James Duffey
 

I will miss the June VHF contest this year. My dad died last week and the funeral was yesterday. I am in South Dakota now taking care of things. I will miss working all of you. Good luck in the contest! - Duffey


W3DHJ/R ARRL JUN VHF DM77,DM78,DM87,DM88

Jonesy W3DHJ
 

I will be a'rovering this weekend.

On Saturday it'll be DM88 -> DM87 -> DM77 -> DM78 (1800z-0200+z)

On Sunday it'll be DM78 -> DM77 -> DM87 -> DM88 (1200z-0200+z)

Pretty much close-in around 38N and 104W

6M, 2M, and 432mcs ; SSB and Cringe Worthy CW ("CWCW" HI!HI!)


Temps to be above 100 degrees out there this weekend.

73
Jonesy W3DHJ/R
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Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | __ linux FreeBSD
38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | 73 SK


Re: Analog only categories in June VHF Contest

Kyle Best, KC0LFQ
 

Possibly, but I think the people who really care about 'run rate' already know.  The folks on FT-8 don't seem to worry about what SNR means, or implies.  If you get on 6m during a sporadic-e opening, you get the same thing, SNR's of over 12, and not a soul on ssb.  And who on FT-8 turns down their power when they get a report back of -10 or better on the SNR? I know I don't even though I understand that I might be able to complete if I did. (Maybe it's insurance for completion, or maybe just apathy in twiddling knobs every contact.)  So knowing what they mean may help a few folks, but I think the serious contesters already know FT-8 is slow; the casual contesters don't care enough about maximizing rates to want to leave the FT-8 channel.  You need a critical mass of folks to go to ssb/cw before it even matters.  If you could get 200 contacts an hour, you need at least 200 people to talk to, or you drain your contact bucket in way less than an hour.

Kyle
KC0LFQ


Re: Analog only categories in June VHF Contest

Steve N2IC
 

Would it help to have an education campaign for the 6 meter FT8 newbies that have little experience with the analog modes ? Something like, "if you are seeing S/N stronger than 0 dB on FT8, you can make contacts much faster on SSB".

73,
Steve, N2IC


On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 8:33 AM Kyle Best, KC0LFQ via groups.io <kyledoesitbest=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I like the idea of analog only, since it would mean I don't need to bring a computer and extra solar panels/batteries up on a mountain peak with me.  That said, if there is nobody to talk to in the analog-only category, then I have no incentive to even go out.  There are long stretches out here when you have no-one to talk to without the FT-8 crowd, so cutting that group out makes me less likely to go camping in less populated grids.
I'll probably try and work out a computer solution to take out this year, simply because I want something to do once the local ssb/cw folks have been worked on 2m and 440.  I tried 6m last year analog only, and worked 0 stations in 4 hours, finally packing it in and heading home early.  I listened on the ft-8 channel, and there were tons of stations I could hear, but nobody seems to bothers with ssb on 6m anymore,so gotta move to where they are.

Kyle
KC0LFQ


Re: Analog only categories in June VHF Contest

Kyle Best, KC0LFQ
 

I like the idea of analog only, since it would mean I don't need to bring a computer and extra solar panels/batteries up on a mountain peak with me.  That said, if there is nobody to talk to in the analog-only category, then I have no incentive to even go out.  There are long stretches out here when you have no-one to talk to without the FT-8 crowd, so cutting that group out makes me less likely to go camping in less populated grids.
I'll probably try and work out a computer solution to take out this year, simply because I want something to do once the local ssb/cw folks have been worked on 2m and 440.  I tried 6m last year analog only, and worked 0 stations in 4 hours, finally packing it in and heading home early.  I listened on the ft-8 channel, and there were tons of stations I could hear, but nobody seems to bothers with ssb on 6m anymore,so gotta move to where they are.

Kyle
KC0LFQ


Re: Analog only categories in June VHF Contest

James Duffey
 

Jonesy - You read that right, there is no rover analog only category.

There was some concern about category creep, which dilutes competition. The VHF contests already have 10 categories, the analog only designation will add five more. It was, somewhat arbitrarily, decided to only designate the analog only categories to the single operator categories.  The rover categories are multi operator categories. Also, the UR category has so few participants that subdividing that category even further would result in two categories, neither of which have critical mass for competition. The number of entrants in the rover categories is fairly small, and dividing those categories even further would result in fairly small categories, which in many cases results in diminished competition. - Duffey KK6MC      

On Apr 27, 2022, at 16:52, James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:

OK Keith thanks for the reply.  I don’t think the subcommittee members are any secret, or at least shouldn’t be, and it will come out sooner or later, so it is W0ZQ (chair), K2DRH, W2FU, K2UA, N2CEI, K9CT (rep from CAC), K9JK, and myself. Jon (W0ZQ) did a good, rational, and impartial job of being chair. Likewise with K9CT as CAC rep. One thing you will note is that is not a very geographically diverse group, especially when it comes to level s of VHF activity, with 2 from NY, 3 from IL, one from MN, one from FL, and me, from NM. I was a last minute add-inn by Jon in an attempt to balance things geographically when he noted that there wasn’t anyone west of the Mississippi on the committee. 

The survey and data mining efforts we conducted will eventually be published and/or presented.  When that happens I think that there will be several awkward questions for the subcommittee members to answer. I will defer further comments until we get that beer.

I think that several of the members failed to recognize the symbiotic nature of digital and analog operations, even if it is not widely practiced. Everyone, even me, brings their personal biases, agendas, and experiences to the table, errrr, Zoom meeting. These were at times difficult to resolve, at least for me.

The survey has some surprises in it, at least for me, and at least one of those is hard for me to deal with. Like, I said, more over beer. - Duffey  

On Apr 27, 2022, at 16:23, Keith Morehouse <w9rm@...> wrote:

Thanks for your comments Jim.  I was asked to proofread the survey but didn't know who was on the working committee.

Even though I'm not openly advocating for any particular change, I think the idea of one Q on CW/SSB and another on any digital mode is important to keep VHF contesting from simply becoming a 'contest of technology' and not one of operator skill.  I believe the new subcategories are kind of backwards.  I think they should have been MIXED MODE and DIGITAL ONLY, with 2 Qs per station allowed as I mentioned.

This would hopefully bring the serious contesters back to analog modes, running SSB or CW for rate when the band is open and digging out weak ones on FT8 when it's not or working meteors in the early morning on MSK144.  The DIGITAL ONLY subcategory would be the choice for all those casual FT8-or-die ops and allow them to go do their thing without any impact.

I'm of the opinion that this is the world envisioned by K1JT when he started work on WSJT.  The ability to run rate on analog when the bands were hot and the option of weak signal Qs when it was not.  I would operate VHF contests in such a world.  Right now, the idea of contesting with 100% digital modes doesn't interest me.

I have a room reserved for Central States, but I don't yet know if I'll make it or not.  We have a lot going on this summer.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022, 2:24 PM James Duffey <jamesduffey@...> wrote:
Keith - Good to hear from you. 

I agree with many of your comments about the change as implemented. 

I was on the subcommittee that worked on the survey and also did some data mining to support recommendations. It is probably poor form on my part at this point to comment too much on our deliberations that led to this recommendation as we are continuing to consider the issue and other recommendations should be forthcoming. I fear that some of my comments may be considered to undermine the committee’s ongoing efforts. The recommendation for changes are not complete. At least, I hope that they are not complete.

I can discuss this further over a beer or two, but suffice it to say I was for stronger action, including allowing two QSOs per band, one for each mode. There are a lot of factors involved, some involving rather strong personalities, and some who had ideas on what should be done that are not really related to the digital mode issue, at least in my opinion. 

Current contest activity is high when judged by logs submitted. On that measure it is difficult to justify to many that significant changes, such as two QSOs per band, will result in a better contest. In my opinion, we did not tackle the real issue, and the one, in my opinion we were tasked to address, that is essentially increasing the number of analog QSOs available. I, and others, think the solution is straight forward with few bad consequences. Others do not. 

Like I said, a beer or two will get you deeper insight. Are you going to CSVHF this summer? - Duffey KK6MC

    

On Apr 27, 2022, at 12:58, Keith Morehouse <w9rm@...> wrote:

So, THIS is the result of the survey we responded to last year ?  They did the absolute minimum to address the analog v digital question.  Since you can still only work a guy once per band, these new "analog only" categories will have minimal opportunity for Qs.  I foresee them being a dismal failure, with scores maybe 10% of the mixed mode entries.

it's almost like the "contest advisory" people thought, "Lets just do lip service to all those old fogies out there who don't like digital contesting - See, we threw a SSB/CW party and nobody came"  Nothing to see here - move on...

I'm not advocating for rules changes any more - it is what it is, a technology limited version of contesting where one's pileup skills and rate capability, so important in most contesting, is negated by how many digital sequences you and everybody else can fit in each hour.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 12:42 PM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
The latest ARRL Contest Bulletin contains an announcement (see below) that a new analog only subcategory has been added to the June VHF contest for the SOHP, SOLP, SO3B and SOP categories.  See the cut and paste from the bulletin below.  You still work a station only once per band regardless of mode (no change).  The new category is intended to address those contest participates who wish to use only SSB/CW allowing them to not have to compete with those who are also use digital modes (or perhaps only digital modes), plus it creates a category of contest stations that you can only worked by using SSB/CW. - Duffey KK6MC

Contest Bulletin Announcement
New Categories Added to ARRL June VHF ContestParticipants in the Single Operator categories for the June VHF Contest can now enter in All Mode (which includes all digital modes) or Analog-Only (CW and SSB/FM) subcategories. The ARRL Programs and Services Committee, with guidance from the Contest Advisory Committee, has approved this rule change in response to the survey that was sent to participants of ARRL VHF contests late last year. For full rules and details, visit www.arrl.org/june-vhf

KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM









Re: Analog only categories in June VHF Contest

James Duffey
 

OK Keith thanks for the reply.  I don’t think the subcommittee members are any secret, or at least shouldn’t be, and it will come out sooner or later, so it is W0ZQ (chair), K2DRH, W2FU, K2UA, N2CEI, K9CT (rep from CAC), K9JK, and myself. Jon (W0ZQ) did a good, rational, and impartial job of being chair. Likewise with K9CT as CAC rep. One thing you will note is that is not a very geographically diverse group, especially when it comes to level s of VHF activity, with 2 from NY, 3 from IL, one from MN, one from FL, and me, from NM. I was a last minute add-inn by Jon in an attempt to balance things geographically when he noted that there wasn’t anyone west of the Mississippi on the committee. 

The survey and data mining efforts we conducted will eventually be published and/or presented.  When that happens I think that there will be several awkward questions for the subcommittee members to answer. I will defer further comments until we get that beer.

I think that several of the members failed to recognize the symbiotic nature of digital and analog operations, even if it is not widely practiced. Everyone, even me, brings their personal biases, agendas, and experiences to the table, errrr, Zoom meeting. These were at times difficult to resolve, at least for me.

The survey has some surprises in it, at least for me, and at least one of those is hard for me to deal with. Like, I said, more over beer. - Duffey  

On Apr 27, 2022, at 16:23, Keith Morehouse <w9rm@...> wrote:

Thanks for your comments Jim.  I was asked to proofread the survey but didn't know who was on the working committee.

Even though I'm not openly advocating for any particular change, I think the idea of one Q on CW/SSB and another on any digital mode is important to keep VHF contesting from simply becoming a 'contest of technology' and not one of operator skill.  I believe the new subcategories are kind of backwards.  I think they should have been MIXED MODE and DIGITAL ONLY, with 2 Qs per station allowed as I mentioned.

This would hopefully bring the serious contesters back to analog modes, running SSB or CW for rate when the band is open and digging out weak ones on FT8 when it's not or working meteors in the early morning on MSK144.  The DIGITAL ONLY subcategory would be the choice for all those casual FT8-or-die ops and allow them to go do their thing without any impact.

I'm of the opinion that this is the world envisioned by K1JT when he started work on WSJT.  The ability to run rate on analog when the bands were hot and the option of weak signal Qs when it was not.  I would operate VHF contests in such a world.  Right now, the idea of contesting with 100% digital modes doesn't interest me.

I have a room reserved for Central States, but I don't yet know if I'll make it or not.  We have a lot going on this summer.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022, 2:24 PM James Duffey <jamesduffey@...> wrote:
Keith - Good to hear from you. 

I agree with many of your comments about the change as implemented. 

I was on the subcommittee that worked on the survey and also did some data mining to support recommendations. It is probably poor form on my part at this point to comment too much on our deliberations that led to this recommendation as we are continuing to consider the issue and other recommendations should be forthcoming. I fear that some of my comments may be considered to undermine the committee’s ongoing efforts. The recommendation for changes are not complete. At least, I hope that they are not complete.

I can discuss this further over a beer or two, but suffice it to say I was for stronger action, including allowing two QSOs per band, one for each mode. There are a lot of factors involved, some involving rather strong personalities, and some who had ideas on what should be done that are not really related to the digital mode issue, at least in my opinion. 

Current contest activity is high when judged by logs submitted. On that measure it is difficult to justify to many that significant changes, such as two QSOs per band, will result in a better contest. In my opinion, we did not tackle the real issue, and the one, in my opinion we were tasked to address, that is essentially increasing the number of analog QSOs available. I, and others, think the solution is straight forward with few bad consequences. Others do not. 

Like I said, a beer or two will get you deeper insight. Are you going to CSVHF this summer? - Duffey KK6MC

    

On Apr 27, 2022, at 12:58, Keith Morehouse <w9rm@...> wrote:

So, THIS is the result of the survey we responded to last year ?  They did the absolute minimum to address the analog v digital question.  Since you can still only work a guy once per band, these new "analog only" categories will have minimal opportunity for Qs.  I foresee them being a dismal failure, with scores maybe 10% of the mixed mode entries.

it's almost like the "contest advisory" people thought, "Lets just do lip service to all those old fogies out there who don't like digital contesting - See, we threw a SSB/CW party and nobody came"  Nothing to see here - move on...

I'm not advocating for rules changes any more - it is what it is, a technology limited version of contesting where one's pileup skills and rate capability, so important in most contesting, is negated by how many digital sequences you and everybody else can fit in each hour.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 12:42 PM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
The latest ARRL Contest Bulletin contains an announcement (see below) that a new analog only subcategory has been added to the June VHF contest for the SOHP, SOLP, SO3B and SOP categories.  See the cut and paste from the bulletin below.  You still work a station only once per band regardless of mode (no change).  The new category is intended to address those contest participates who wish to use only SSB/CW allowing them to not have to compete with those who are also use digital modes (or perhaps only digital modes), plus it creates a category of contest stations that you can only worked by using SSB/CW. - Duffey KK6MC

Contest Bulletin Announcement
New Categories Added to ARRL June VHF ContestParticipants in the Single Operator categories for the June VHF Contest can now enter in All Mode (which includes all digital modes) or Analog-Only (CW and SSB/FM) subcategories. The ARRL Programs and Services Committee, with guidance from the Contest Advisory Committee, has approved this rule change in response to the survey that was sent to participants of ARRL VHF contests late last year. For full rules and details, visit www.arrl.org/june-vhf

KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM








Re: Analog only categories in June VHF Contest

Jonesy W3DHJ
 

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022, Keith Morehouse wrote:

So, THIS is the result of the survey we responded to last year ? They did
the absolute minimum to address the analog v digital question. Since you
can still only work a guy once per band, these new "analog only" categories
will have minimal opportunity for Qs. I foresee them being a dismal
failure, with scores maybe 10% of the mixed mode entries.
Furthermore, if it was felt that a distinction should be made for
"analog only" participants, why was the rover class(es) left out?

That's my reading of the new VHF rules PDF:

https://contests.arrl.org/ContestRules/JanJunSep-VHF-Rules.pdf

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Jonesy
--
Marvin L Jones | W3DHJ | W3DHJ | https://W3DHJ.net/
Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | __ linux FreeBSD
38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | 73 SK


Re: Analog only categories in June VHF Contest

Keith Morehouse
 

Thanks for your comments Jim.  I was asked to proofread the survey but didn't know who was on the working committee.

Even though I'm not openly advocating for any particular change, I think the idea of one Q on CW/SSB and another on any digital mode is important to keep VHF contesting from simply becoming a 'contest of technology' and not one of operator skill.  I believe the new subcategories are kind of backwards.  I think they should have been MIXED MODE and DIGITAL ONLY, with 2 Qs per station allowed as I mentioned.

This would hopefully bring the serious contesters back to analog modes, running SSB or CW for rate when the band is open and digging out weak ones on FT8 when it's not or working meteors in the early morning on MSK144.  The DIGITAL ONLY subcategory would be the choice for all those casual FT8-or-die ops and allow them to go do their thing without any impact.

I'm of the opinion that this is the world envisioned by K1JT when he started work on WSJT.  The ability to run rate on analog when the bands were hot and the option of weak signal Qs when it was not.  I would operate VHF contests in such a world.  Right now, the idea of contesting with 100% digital modes doesn't interest me.

I have a room reserved for Central States, but I don't yet know if I'll make it or not.  We have a lot going on this summer.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG


On Wed, Apr 27, 2022, 2:24 PM James Duffey <jamesduffey@...> wrote:
Keith - Good to hear from you. 

I agree with many of your comments about the change as implemented. 

I was on the subcommittee that worked on the survey and also did some data mining to support recommendations. It is probably poor form on my part at this point to comment too much on our deliberations that led to this recommendation as we are continuing to consider the issue and other recommendations should be forthcoming. I fear that some of my comments may be considered to undermine the committee’s ongoing efforts. The recommendation for changes are not complete. At least, I hope that they are not complete.

I can discuss this further over a beer or two, but suffice it to say I was for stronger action, including allowing two QSOs per band, one for each mode. There are a lot of factors involved, some involving rather strong personalities, and some who had ideas on what should be done that are not really related to the digital mode issue, at least in my opinion. 

Current contest activity is high when judged by logs submitted. On that measure it is difficult to justify to many that significant changes, such as two QSOs per band, will result in a better contest. In my opinion, we did not tackle the real issue, and the one, in my opinion we were tasked to address, that is essentially increasing the number of analog QSOs available. I, and others, think the solution is straight forward with few bad consequences. Others do not. 

Like I said, a beer or two will get you deeper insight. Are you going to CSVHF this summer? - Duffey KK6MC

    

On Apr 27, 2022, at 12:58, Keith Morehouse <w9rm@...> wrote:

So, THIS is the result of the survey we responded to last year ?  They did the absolute minimum to address the analog v digital question.  Since you can still only work a guy once per band, these new "analog only" categories will have minimal opportunity for Qs.  I foresee them being a dismal failure, with scores maybe 10% of the mixed mode entries.

it's almost like the "contest advisory" people thought, "Lets just do lip service to all those old fogies out there who don't like digital contesting - See, we threw a SSB/CW party and nobody came"  Nothing to see here - move on...

I'm not advocating for rules changes any more - it is what it is, a technology limited version of contesting where one's pileup skills and rate capability, so important in most contesting, is negated by how many digital sequences you and everybody else can fit in each hour.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 12:42 PM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
The latest ARRL Contest Bulletin contains an announcement (see below) that a new analog only subcategory has been added to the June VHF contest for the SOHP, SOLP, SO3B and SOP categories.  See the cut and paste from the bulletin below.  You still work a station only once per band regardless of mode (no change).  The new category is intended to address those contest participates who wish to use only SSB/CW allowing them to not have to compete with those who are also use digital modes (or perhaps only digital modes), plus it creates a category of contest stations that you can only worked by using SSB/CW. - Duffey KK6MC

Contest Bulletin Announcement
New Categories Added to ARRL June VHF ContestParticipants in the Single Operator categories for the June VHF Contest can now enter in All Mode (which includes all digital modes) or Analog-Only (CW and SSB/FM) subcategories. The ARRL Programs and Services Committee, with guidance from the Contest Advisory Committee, has approved this rule change in response to the survey that was sent to participants of ARRL VHF contests late last year. For full rules and details, visit www.arrl.org/june-vhf

KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM







Re: Analog only categories in June VHF Contest

Keith Morehouse
 

So, THIS is the result of the survey we responded to last year ?  They did the absolute minimum to address the analog v digital question.  Since you can still only work a guy once per band, these new "analog only" categories will have minimal opportunity for Qs.  I foresee them being a dismal failure, with scores maybe 10% of the mixed mode entries.

it's almost like the "contest advisory" people thought, "Lets just do lip service to all those old fogies out there who don't like digital contesting - See, we threw a SSB/CW party and nobody came"  Nothing to see here - move on...

I'm not advocating for rules changes any more - it is what it is, a technology limited version of contesting where one's pileup skills and rate capability, so important in most contesting, is negated by how many digital sequences you and everybody else can fit in each hour.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 12:42 PM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
The latest ARRL Contest Bulletin contains an announcement (see below) that a new analog only subcategory has been added to the June VHF contest for the SOHP, SOLP, SO3B and SOP categories.  See the cut and paste from the bulletin below.  You still work a station only once per band regardless of mode (no change).  The new category is intended to address those contest participates who wish to use only SSB/CW allowing them to not have to compete with those who are also use digital modes (or perhaps only digital modes), plus it creates a category of contest stations that you can only worked by using SSB/CW. - Duffey KK6MC

Contest Bulletin Announcement
New Categories Added to ARRL June VHF ContestParticipants in the Single Operator categories for the June VHF Contest can now enter in All Mode (which includes all digital modes) or Analog-Only (CW and SSB/FM) subcategories. The ARRL Programs and Services Committee, with guidance from the Contest Advisory Committee, has approved this rule change in response to the survey that was sent to participants of ARRL VHF contests late last year. For full rules and details, visit www.arrl.org/june-vhf

KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM




Analog only categories in June VHF Contest

James Duffey
 

The latest ARRL Contest Bulletin contains an announcement (see below) that a new analog only subcategory has been added to the June VHF contest for the SOHP, SOLP, SO3B and SOP categories.  See the cut and paste from the bulletin below.  You still work a station only once per band regardless of mode (no change).  The new category is intended to address those contest participates who wish to use only SSB/CW allowing them to not have to compete with those who are also use digital modes (or perhaps only digital modes), plus it creates a category of contest stations that you can only worked by using SSB/CW. - Duffey KK6MC

Contest Bulletin Announcement
New Categories Added to ARRL June VHF ContestParticipants in the Single Operator categories for the June VHF Contest can now enter in All Mode (which includes all digital modes) or Analog-Only (CW and SSB/FM) subcategories. The ARRL Programs and Services Committee, with guidance from the Contest Advisory Committee, has approved this rule change in response to the survey that was sent to participants of ARRL VHF contests late last year. For full rules and details, visit www.arrl.org/june-vhf

KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM




6M talk by KK6MC

James Duffey
 

Wednesday, April 27 at 1830, I will be giving a talk to the Albuquerque DX Association about 6M operation. It is a zoom meeting and you are welcome to link in. Information below. I hope you can make it. - Duffey KK6MC

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From: "Bill Mader K8TE" <billamader@...>
Subject: [adxa] ADXA May Meeting Announcement
Date: April 26, 2022 at 21:02:46 MDT

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6M talk to ADXA tomorrow Wednesday April 27 by Zoom

James Duffey
 

Tomorrow evening at 1830, Wednesday April 27, I will be giving a talk on 6M to the Albuquerque DX Association. Meetings are currently held on Zoom. When I get the invite and link I will forward it to the group. You are welcome to drop in. - Duffey KK6MC

KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM
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