Date   

KK6MC/r on APRS

James Duffey
 

I neglected to mention that I will be sending my position on APRS when I have coverage. 

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:12, James Duffey <jamesduffey@...> wrote:


Here is the KK6MC/r itinerary for the September 2021 VHF contest. As always, schedule is flexible and has some contingency built in, but it never seems like enough. If conditions are good, I may be delayed. If they are poor, I will slow up. 

You can text me or phone me at (505) 228-5491. I will also be on Slack. 

Current plan is to be on 4 bands, 6M, 2M, 222MHz and 432MHz. I will have SSB, CW, and WSJT-X. I intend to go to the analog modes on the hour and half hour. 

6M Moxon and 100W
2M 8 ft Yagi and 100W
222MHz 8 ft Yagi and 30W
432MHz 8 ft Yagi and 50 W

See you in the contest. Listen for the weak ones. - Duffey




Grid

Time In (UTC)

Time Out (UTC)

 

 

Saturday September 11

DM75ba

1800

1945

 

 

DM74bx

2015

2200

 

 

DM64xx

2230

0015

 

 

DM65uc (?)

0045

0200 (or later?)

 

 

Sunday September 12

DM65

1400

1430

In motion

DM64

1430

1530

In Motion

 

DM64nb

1530

1600

Stopped at Socorro Cty Fairgrounds

DM64

1600

1630

In Motion

 

DM63

1630

1715

In Motion

 

DM63uu

1715

1830

Stopped

 

Dm63

1830

1900

In motion

 

DM73AP

1900

2000

stopped

 

DM73

2000

2030

In motion

 

DM74

2030

2100

In Motion

 

DM64

2100

2145

In Motion

 

Depending on how things go and how they went on Saturday, I may redo DM75 and perhaps the rest of the Moriiarty convergence.

 



KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM




WSJT-X QSY

James Duffey
 

If I work you on FT8 or FT4, and, please do try FT4, I will QSY to 2M if we worked on 6M, and to 6M if we worked on 2M. If we complete on 2M, let's try 432MHz. If you have 222MHz, we can try that as well. This worked for John and I in July.

Sorry I forgot this the first time around. - Duffey KK6MC

KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM



On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:12, James Duffey <jamesduffey@...> wrote:

Here is the KK6MC/r itinerary for the September 2021 VHF contest. As always, schedule is flexible and has some contingency built in, but it never seems like enough. If conditions are good, I may be delayed. If they are poor, I will slow up. 

You can text me or phone me at (505) 228-5491. I will also be on Slack. 

Current plan is to be on 4 bands, 6M, 2M, 222MHz and 432MHz. I will have SSB, CW, and WSJT-X. I intend to go to the analog modes on the hour and half hour. 

6M Moxon and 100W
2M 8 ft Yagi and 100W
222MHz 8 ft Yagi and 30W
432MHz 8 ft Yagi and 50 W

See you in the contest. Listen for the weak ones. - Duffey




Grid

Time In (UTC)

Time Out (UTC)

 

 

Saturday September 11

DM75ba

1800

1945

 

 

DM74bx

2015

2200

 

 

DM64xx

2230

0015

 

 

DM65uc (?)

0045

0200 (or later?)

 

 

Sunday September 12

DM65

1400

1430

In motion

DM64

1430

1530

In Motion

 

DM64nb

1530

1600

Stopped at Socorro Cty Fairgrounds

DM64

1600

1630

In Motion

 

DM63

1630

1715

In Motion

 

DM63uu

1715

1830

Stopped

 

Dm63

1830

1900

In motion

 

DM73AP

1900

2000

stopped

 

DM73

2000

2030

In motion

 

DM74

2030

2100

In Motion

 

DM64

2100

2145

In Motion

 

Depending on how things go and how they went on Saturday, I may redo DM75 and perhaps the rest of the Moriiarty convergence.

 



KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM





KK6MC/r itinerary

James Duffey
 

Here is the KK6MC/r itinerary for the September 2021 VHF contest. As always, schedule is flexible and has some contingency built in, but it never seems like enough. If conditions are good, I may be delayed. If they are poor, I will slow up. 

You can text me or phone me at (505) 228-5491. I will also be on Slack. 

Current plan is to be on 4 bands, 6M, 2M, 222MHz and 432MHz. I will have SSB, CW, and WSJT-X. I intend to go to the analog modes on the hour and half hour. 

6M Moxon and 100W
2M 8 ft Yagi and 100W
222MHz 8 ft Yagi and 30W
432MHz 8 ft Yagi and 50 W

See you in the contest. Listen for the weak ones. - Duffey




Grid

Time In (UTC)

Time Out (UTC)

 

 

Saturday September 11

DM75ba

1800

1945

 

 

DM74bx

2015

2200

 

 

DM64xx

2230

0015

 

 

DM65uc (?)

0045

0200 (or later?)

 

 

Sunday September 12

DM65

1400

1430

In motion

DM64

1430

1530

In Motion

 

DM64nb

1530

1600

Stopped at Socorro Cty Fairgrounds

DM64

1600

1630

In Motion

 

DM63

1630

1715

In Motion

 

DM63uu

1715

1830

Stopped

 

Dm63

1830

1900

In motion

 

DM73AP

1900

2000

stopped

 

DM73

2000

2030

In motion

 

DM74

2030

2100

In Motion

 

DM64

2100

2145

In Motion

 

Depending on how things go and how they went on Saturday, I may redo DM75 and perhaps the rest of the Moriiarty convergence.

 



KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM




Re: N7GP/R Sept. Contest plans

Tom
 

Sounds great Ed

On 2021-09-09 10:59, Ed wrote:
Will look for you.
N5JEH
--
Sent from Outlook Email App for Android Thursday, 09 September 2021,
10:56AM -06:00 from John Stanford wb8svn@gmail.com:

Wow Tom
I’m impressed!
I’ll look forward you on Sunday.
John, KF6I
On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 9:46 AM Tom wrote:

To All..
Due to work commitments, I will not be starting my Rover operation
until
Saturday 6 pm AZ LOCAL time ,,I.E..0100 UTC Sunday,,
I will start in the 4 corner are of DM32, DM33, DM42, DM43 and
circle
that until 10 PM,,,
Over night I will be on msk144 50.260 from DM42 And DM43...
Sunday morning I will be back on the road by 1500 UTC ,, 8 am
local AZ
time again in the 4 corner DM32, DM33, DM42, DM43.. Then in
afternoon
Sunday I will work my way to DM34, DM44 and If time permits DM45
and
will be active until the end of the contest Sunday night...
I will have all bands 6 meters thru 10 GHz ,,
Digital modes on 6, 2, and 432 only..
Cw, SSB and FM on ALL bands,,
I will be on Rover Slack and email address above
And cell# is 419-370-8802....so please get with me for ANY skeds
or if
you want to try a contact..
Good luck to everyone..
Hope to work MANY of you ,,
Tom
N7GP/R
ex WA8WZG
6 meter Beacon 50.070 DM42dw
2 meter Beacon 144.055
222 Beacon 222.068
432 Beacon 432.055
--
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Tork Technologies, LLC
dba Island Amplifier USA
(714) 412-7399
ARS KF6I
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Re: N7GP/R Sept. Contest plans

Ed
 

Will look for you.

N5JEH

--
Sent from Outlook Email App for Android

Thursday, 09 September 2021, 10:56AM -06:00 from John Stanford wb8svn@...:

Wow Tom

I’m impressed!

I’ll look forward you on Sunday. 

John, KF6I

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 9:46 AM Tom <wa8wzg@...> wrote:
To All..
Due to work commitments, I will not be starting my Rover operation until
Saturday 6 pm AZ LOCAL time ,,I.E..0100 UTC Sunday,,
I will start in the 4 corner are of DM32, DM33, DM42, DM43 and circle
that until 10 PM,,,
Over night I will be on msk144 50.260 from DM42 And DM43...
Sunday morning I will be back on the road  by 1500 UTC ,, 8 am local AZ
time again in the 4 corner DM32, DM33, DM42, DM43.. Then in afternoon
Sunday I will work my way to DM34, DM44 and If time permits DM45 and
will be active until the end of the contest Sunday night...


I will have all bands 6 meters thru 10 GHz ,,

Digital modes on 6, 2, and 432 only..

Cw, SSB and FM on ALL bands,,
I will be on Rover Slack and email address above
And cell# is 419-370-8802....so please get with me for ANY skeds or if
you want to try a contact..
Good luck to everyone..
Hope to work MANY of you ,,
Tom
N7GP/R
ex WA8WZG
6 meter Beacon 50.070 DM42dw
2 meter Beacon 144.055
222 Beacon 222.068
432 Beacon 432.055






--
John Stanford - President
Tork Technologies, LLC
dba Island Amplifier USA
(714) 412-7399
ARS KF6I


Re: N7GP/R Sept. Contest plans

John Stanford
 

Wow Tom

I’m impressed!

I’ll look forward you on Sunday. 

John, KF6I

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 9:46 AM Tom <wa8wzg@...> wrote:
To All..
Due to work commitments, I will not be starting my Rover operation until
Saturday 6 pm AZ LOCAL time ,,I.E..0100 UTC Sunday,,
I will start in the 4 corner are of DM32, DM33, DM42, DM43 and circle
that until 10 PM,,,
Over night I will be on msk144 50.260 from DM42 And DM43...
Sunday morning I will be back on the road  by 1500 UTC ,, 8 am local AZ
time again in the 4 corner DM32, DM33, DM42, DM43.. Then in afternoon
Sunday I will work my way to DM34, DM44 and If time permits DM45 and
will be active until the end of the contest Sunday night...


I will have all bands 6 meters thru 10 GHz ,,

Digital modes on 6, 2, and 432 only..

Cw, SSB and FM on ALL bands,,
I will be on Rover Slack and email address above
And cell# is 419-370-8802....so please get with me for ANY skeds or if
you want to try a contact..
Good luck to everyone..
Hope to work MANY of you ,,
Tom
N7GP/R
ex WA8WZG
6 meter Beacon 50.070 DM42dw
2 meter Beacon 144.055
222 Beacon 222.068
432 Beacon 432.055






--
John Stanford - President
Tork Technologies, LLC
dba Island Amplifier USA
(714) 412-7399
ARS KF6I


N7GP/R Sept. Contest plans

Tom
 

To All..
Due to work commitments, I will not be starting my Rover operation until Saturday 6 pm AZ LOCAL time ,,I.E..0100 UTC Sunday,,
I will start in the 4 corner are of DM32, DM33, DM42, DM43 and circle that until 10 PM,,,
Over night I will be on msk144 50.260 from DM42 And DM43...
Sunday morning I will be back on the road by 1500 UTC ,, 8 am local AZ time again in the 4 corner DM32, DM33, DM42, DM43.. Then in afternoon Sunday I will work my way to DM34, DM44 and If time permits DM45 and will be active until the end of the contest Sunday night...


I will have all bands 6 meters thru 10 GHz ,,

Digital modes on 6, 2, and 432 only..

Cw, SSB and FM on ALL bands,,
I will be on Rover Slack and email address above
And cell# is 419-370-8802....so please get with me for ANY skeds or if you want to try a contact..
Good luck to everyone..
Hope to work MANY of you ,,
Tom
N7GP/R
ex WA8WZG
6 meter Beacon 50.070 DM42dw
2 meter Beacon 144.055
222 Beacon 222.068
432 Beacon 432.055


Re: September VHF Event

John Klem
 

My plan is to operate Saturday only, starting in DM53xx and moving just a bit at some point to DM54, depending on activity.  I think I'll have internet there, so look for me on the NMVHF slack chat channel for coordination, or feel free to send me a text at 505-373-4671 or 505-339-5411.  SSB, CW, FT8.

6 m: 3 el. yagi 100 W
2 m: 6 el. yagi 100 W
432: 11 el. yagi 50 W

John, AA5PR/R

On 9/7/2021 6:53 PM, Kyle Best, KC0LFQ via groups.io wrote:
Wondering if anyone is planning to work the VHF contest this weekend.  I am thinking about going down to Gallinas Peak (DM74cf) on Saturday morning.  See if I can maybe work the locals on 6m, 2m and 70cm back in Albuquerque.  I don't plan to make it an overnight, since I won't have an FT-8 computer setup with my current power budget (45 watt solar panel and a battery), and once the local contacts have been worked, there's not much sense waiting around on 6m for a ssb contact to show up.

I have 23cm, 6cm and 3cm transverters, at ~10mW each, feeding horn antennas, (circuit-board yagi on 23cm) and could take them along to try if anyone will be out roving the south plains.  I doubt I can get back to Abq with them since the Manzano's would be in the way.

Hope to hear some folks around on Saturday.

-- Kyle, KC0LFQ


September VHF Event

David Jarmuth
 

I will likely be participating both days from here in Colorado Springs ( DM78pv ).  Probably 6m, 5m, and 70cm SSB.  I know that may not help you guys too much, but I have worked N5JEH in Albuquerque before, so it is possible!

73's,
David
KB0KQI


Re: September VHF Event

Doug Gilliam
 

Hi Mike,

I will be portable at the south rim of the Grand Canyon at DM45aw. I'll be on 6 thru 1296 with long boom yagis on 2 meters and up. A loop on 6. SSB,CW,FT8. When I get up there tomorrow I will run a terrain analysis for your direction.

Good luck in the contest!

Doug, K7EME 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone



-------- Original message --------
From: Michael Daly <arrowengineering1@...>
Date: 9/8/21 4:49 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: main@nmvhf.groups.io, klemjf@...
Subject: Re: [nmvhf] September VHF Event

I will be operating from the home QTH in Gallup, DM55pm. 6 2 & 432 ssb and cw.

Mike, n5sj

 

Michael Daly

1408 Linda Drive

Gallup, NM 87301-5616

Cell: 505-870-3430

e-mail: arrowengineering1@...

 

 

 

From: main@nmvhf.groups.io <main@nmvhf.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Klem
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2021 10:28 PM
To: main@nmvhf.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nmvhf] September VHF Event

 

I'll be participating, but probably Saturday only as well, and a very limited rove.  I'll post again when I have it figured out.

John, AA5PR

On 9/7/2021 6:53 PM, Kyle Best, KC0LFQ via groups.io wrote:

Wondering if anyone is planning to work the VHF contest this weekend.  I am thinking about going down to Gallinas Peak (DM74cf) on Saturday morning.  See if I can maybe work the locals on 6m, 2m and 70cm back in Albuquerque.  I don't plan to make it an overnight, since I won't have an FT-8 computer setup with my current power budget (45 watt solar panel and a battery), and once the local contacts have been worked, there's not much sense waiting around on 6m for a ssb contact to show up.

I have 23cm, 6cm and 3cm transverters, at ~10mW each, feeding horn antennas, (circuit-board yagi on 23cm) and could take them along to try if anyone will be out roving the south plains.  I doubt I can get back to Abq with them since the Manzano's would be in the way.

Hope to hear some folks around on Saturday.

-- Kyle, KC0LFQ


Re: September VHF Event

Michael Daly
 

I will be operating from the home QTH in Gallup, DM55pm. 6 2 & 432 ssb and cw.

Mike, n5sj

 

Michael Daly

1408 Linda Drive

Gallup, NM 87301-5616

Cell: 505-870-3430

e-mail: arrowengineering1@...

 

 

 

From: main@nmvhf.groups.io <main@nmvhf.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Klem
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2021 10:28 PM
To: main@nmvhf.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nmvhf] September VHF Event

 

I'll be participating, but probably Saturday only as well, and a very limited rove.  I'll post again when I have it figured out.

John, AA5PR

On 9/7/2021 6:53 PM, Kyle Best, KC0LFQ via groups.io wrote:

Wondering if anyone is planning to work the VHF contest this weekend.  I am thinking about going down to Gallinas Peak (DM74cf) on Saturday morning.  See if I can maybe work the locals on 6m, 2m and 70cm back in Albuquerque.  I don't plan to make it an overnight, since I won't have an FT-8 computer setup with my current power budget (45 watt solar panel and a battery), and once the local contacts have been worked, there's not much sense waiting around on 6m for a ssb contact to show up.

I have 23cm, 6cm and 3cm transverters, at ~10mW each, feeding horn antennas, (circuit-board yagi on 23cm) and could take them along to try if anyone will be out roving the south plains.  I doubt I can get back to Abq with them since the Manzano's would be in the way.

Hope to hear some folks around on Saturday.

-- Kyle, KC0LFQ


Re: September VHF Event

John Klem
 

I'll be participating, but probably Saturday only as well, and a very limited rove.  I'll post again when I have it figured out.

John, AA5PR

On 9/7/2021 6:53 PM, Kyle Best, KC0LFQ via groups.io wrote:
Wondering if anyone is planning to work the VHF contest this weekend.  I am thinking about going down to Gallinas Peak (DM74cf) on Saturday morning.  See if I can maybe work the locals on 6m, 2m and 70cm back in Albuquerque.  I don't plan to make it an overnight, since I won't have an FT-8 computer setup with my current power budget (45 watt solar panel and a battery), and once the local contacts have been worked, there's not much sense waiting around on 6m for a ssb contact to show up.

I have 23cm, 6cm and 3cm transverters, at ~10mW each, feeding horn antennas, (circuit-board yagi on 23cm) and could take them along to try if anyone will be out roving the south plains.  I doubt I can get back to Abq with them since the Manzano's would be in the way.

Hope to hear some folks around on Saturday.

-- Kyle, KC0LFQ


Re: September VHF Event

James Duffey
 

I will be out roving, route still TBD, but will look for you. 

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Sep 7, 2021, at 18:53, Kyle Best, KC0LFQ via groups.io <kyledoesitbest@...> wrote:

Wondering if anyone is planning to work the VHF contest this weekend.  I am thinking about going down to Gallinas Peak (DM74cf) on Saturday morning.  See if I can maybe work the locals on 6m, 2m and 70cm back in Albuquerque.  I don't plan to make it an overnight, since I won't have an FT-8 computer setup with my current power budget (45 watt solar panel and a battery), and once the local contacts have been worked, there's not much sense waiting around on 6m for a ssb contact to show up.

I have 23cm, 6cm and 3cm transverters, at ~10mW each, feeding horn antennas, (circuit-board yagi on 23cm) and could take them along to try if anyone will be out roving the south plains.  I doubt I can get back to Abq with them since the Manzano's would be in the way.

Hope to hear some folks around on Saturday.

-- Kyle, KC0LFQ


September VHF Event

Kyle Best, KC0LFQ
 

Wondering if anyone is planning to work the VHF contest this weekend.  I am thinking about going down to Gallinas Peak (DM74cf) on Saturday morning.  See if I can maybe work the locals on 6m, 2m and 70cm back in Albuquerque.  I don't plan to make it an overnight, since I won't have an FT-8 computer setup with my current power budget (45 watt solar panel and a battery), and once the local contacts have been worked, there's not much sense waiting around on 6m for a ssb contact to show up.

I have 23cm, 6cm and 3cm transverters, at ~10mW each, feeding horn antennas, (circuit-board yagi on 23cm) and could take them along to try if anyone will be out roving the south plains.  I doubt I can get back to Abq with them since the Manzano's would be in the way.

Hope to hear some folks around on Saturday.

-- Kyle, KC0LFQ


Re: FT8 in contests

James Duffey
 

Scores, operating strategies, activity, and available stations to work are all geographically dependent in VHF/UHF contests. As Keith stated, the Pack Rats analysis and proposals are very much Northeast centric. We have a different set of issues here, and other parts of the country have different yet issues. It is not one size fits all.

Keith also makes a good point that the casual VHF/UHF contesters have gone to FT8 and abandoned SSB. They probably won’t come back. High rates for the veteran contesters that relied on that are probably gone with them.

Instead of monitoring 50.125 prior to the advent of FT8 and joining in the fray when they heard contest activity, the casual contester now hangs out on FT8 and goes with the flow when there is a contest. There is lots of stuff to work, it is straight forward to work, and the casual op works it. Except that now, the rate is much lower for the serious contester because the FT8 rates are lower and that is all the casual operator operates. The casual contester doesn’t notice the low rate much on FT8 because they didn’t have that great a rate on SSB/CW as a casual operator, spending most of their time in search and pounce mode rather than running. In some (many?) cases the casual contester probably has a higher rate on FT8 than on SSB/CW, particularly if the casual operator mainly searched and pounced on SSB/CW. One consequence of this is that the casual contester has become more competitive with the serious contester. I am not sure that this point has been seen or made clearly by those who are concerned with the impacts of FT8 on VHF/UHF contesting.

I offer no simple solutions. Or difficult ones for that matter. Certainly one thing that would help is if the digital guys would go to FT4, which has a faster rate, and although one is probably not going to get to the 150 or 200 an hour, one can probably double the FT8 rates if the activity is there.

The digital impact is not a new phenomena, but more people have perceived its impact negatively with the widespread adoption of FT8. In the January and September contests, the numbers of 6M multipliers has grown steadily with the introduction of FSK441 and MSK144 over the past 20 years. It has been hard to be competitive on 6M and 2M in the last 10 years or so without the additional multipliers that meteor scatter brings. It is even hard to be competitive on 2M without digital EME capability.

I would take issue with some of the points WA3NUT makes in the PackRats article. For one, I am fairly sure that no casual contester is going to remember and use the band/mode code they suggest for QSYing. It is too convoluted. In the July CQ WW VHF contest AA5PR and I made a decision before the contest to QSY to 2M after working on 6M. This worked well except for the time I forgot to do so. Roving with WSJT is not that much of an equipment impact as they make it out to be, particularly if one is already computer logging and computer controlling the rig. I think it does add some additional time at a grid when 6M is open though, but a QSO is a QSO. With an additional op, one can make up for some of this lost time by operating in motion, which WSJT is interestingly enough well suited for.

One of the problems in gathering and analyzing data is that reporting by modes is not required in the VHF/UHF contests, and the digital modes (not RTTY) have only been recognized as a Cabrillo tag for about 5 years. That makes it hard to draw definitive conclusions from available data.

Keith’s point about participation numbers primarily being a good metric for non-contesters and that veteran contesters look at other things is accurate. But it is hard to argue against more participants making more QSOs in more grids with the digital modes than with the analog modes. The narrowing of winning margins may be alarming to veteran contesters but it does make the casual (average?) contester more competitive.

I am not sure what, if any, rules changes can bring back the high rates that many veteran contesters crave. If rates are important, it is important to note that the casual contester, with a modestly equipped station probably achieves a higher rate with FT8 than they did searching and pouncing. It will be difficult to pry the casual contester away from that.

It is unpleasant to live through these abrupt changes in paradigms, whether it be in contesting or other areas. For an understanding of how science deals with this, I recommend “The Structure of Scientific Revolutions” by Thomas Kuhn. What we are seeing is not too different than the changes that occurred when astronomers transitioned from the geocentric to the heliocentric models of the universe, or when classical mechanics transitioned to relativistic mechanics, or when quantum mechanics took over for the desire that atoms behave continuously.

VHF/UHF contesting has forever changed. We need to adapt to those changes. - Duffey KK6MC

On Aug 11, 2021, at 11:44, Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@gmail.com> wrote:

<Cheese Bits August 2021 - FT8 Impact.pdf>


Re: [VHFcontesting] Trivial Trivia Dat From The 2021 ARRL 222 MHz & Up Contest

redarlington
 

There was this one time I came in 7th in NM (single op low power) for June VHF with a score of 56.  In fact, that was last summer.  You can't win if you don't submit logs.   I've done better with less (September VHF in particular)!

-Bob N3XKB

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 9:07 AM Keith Morehouse <w9rm@...> wrote:
So, does anybody in CO/NM want to WIN a contest ?  Note the number of Qs in the recent 222 and up contest from both the region including CO and the region including NM.  Don't ever say you can't win anything !

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: peter h via VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting@...>
Date: Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 8:31 AM
Subject: [VHFcontesting] Trivial Trivia Dat From The 2021 ARRL 222 MHz & Up Contest
To: pnwvhfs@... <pnwvhfs@...>, vhfcontesting@... <vhfcontesting@...>, wswss@... <wswss@...>


While sitting ON HOLD during a phone call, I took a quick look at the 3830 Rumor Page Data for The 2021 ARRL 222MHz & Up Contest.
I totaled the number of QSOs reported from each area, such as CA/NV. Activity levels (& reported activity) varied greatly by region.
WA/OR/VE7/NT:   132 QSO
NTX/STX/OK/AR/LA:   8 QSO
MN/WI/IA:  203 QSO
MI/OH/VE3/NNY/WNY/WPA:  395 QSO
CA/NV:  309 QSO
IN/IL:  46 QSO
MS/AL/GA/FL/SC:   99 QSO
NC/VA/MDC/WV/DE:  299 QSO
EPA/NJ/ENY/WLI:    299 QSO
CT/MA/ME/RI/VT/NH/VE2:   615 QSO
ID/VE6:  ZERO QSO
UT/WY/CO: ZERO QSO
AZ/NM/WTX: ZERO QSO

ND/SD/VE4/VE5: ZERO QSO
NE/KS: ZERO QSO
KY/TN: ZERO QSO
VE9/VE1/VY2/VO: ZERO QSO
AL/HI/DX/MM: ZERO QSO 
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Re: [VHFcontesting] Trivial Trivia Dat From The 2021 ARRL 222 MHz & Up Contest

Jonesy W3DHJ
 

On Thu, 12 Aug 2021, Keith Morehouse wrote:

So, does anybody in CO/NM want to WIN a contest ? Note the number of
Qs in the recent 222 and up contest from both the region including CO
and the region including NM. Don't ever say you can't win anything !
It's not so much about the _winning_ . I just want to compete amongst a
significant group of ops. Being Number One with an asterisk is no great
draw.

Jonesy
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[VHFcontesting] Trivial Trivia Dat From The 2021 ARRL 222 MHz & Up Contest

Keith Morehouse
 

So, does anybody in CO/NM want to WIN a contest ?  Note the number of Qs in the recent 222 and up contest from both the region including CO and the region including NM.  Don't ever say you can't win anything !

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


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Date: Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 8:31 AM
Subject: [VHFcontesting] Trivial Trivia Dat From The 2021 ARRL 222 MHz & Up Contest
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While sitting ON HOLD during a phone call, I took a quick look at the 3830 Rumor Page Data for The 2021 ARRL 222MHz & Up Contest.
I totaled the number of QSOs reported from each area, such as CA/NV. Activity levels (& reported activity) varied greatly by region.
WA/OR/VE7/NT:   132 QSO
NTX/STX/OK/AR/LA:   8 QSO
MN/WI/IA:  203 QSO
MI/OH/VE3/NNY/WNY/WPA:  395 QSO
CA/NV:  309 QSO
IN/IL:  46 QSO
MS/AL/GA/FL/SC:   99 QSO
NC/VA/MDC/WV/DE:  299 QSO
EPA/NJ/ENY/WLI:    299 QSO
CT/MA/ME/RI/VT/NH/VE2:   615 QSO
ID/VE6:  ZERO QSO
UT/WY/CO: ZERO QSO
AZ/NM/WTX: ZERO QSO

ND/SD/VE4/VE5: ZERO QSO
NE/KS: ZERO QSO
KY/TN: ZERO QSO
VE9/VE1/VY2/VO: ZERO QSO
AL/HI/DX/MM: ZERO QSO 
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Re: FT8 in contests

Jonesy W3DHJ
 

"Subsequently, FT8 significantly discourages rover activity "
-- that comment.
Jonesy
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Re: FT8 in contests

KC7QY
 

Bob,

I think the fact that RTTY contesting has moved to FT8 only reinforces the fact that the conventional modes as waning in favor of WSJT. But, the comparison is flawed in this case because there is not a higher rate mode available in RTTY contesting as is the case of FT8 vs SSB or even CW. FT8 in a RTTY contest also lacks the ability to move mults to different bands due to the limitations in message length discussed in the Cheese Bits article.

Of more importance to us out in the VHF desert might be the coordinated activity time concept. It would be nice if we had a better idea of when local stations might be running on the higher frequencies. I had my 2M rig running the entire time I was on during the June test and heard/worked exactly two stations.

Jim KC7QY


On Wednesday, August 11, 2021, 12:10:09 PM MDT, redarlington <rdarlington@...> wrote:


I have some mixed feelings here.   A good buddy of mine (KB1IKC) has a high score for RTTY RU here in NM.  https://contests.arrl.org/certgen.php?mode=jpeg&id=538074&call=KB1IKC 

He has never made a RTTY contact that I'm aware of.  He was 100% FT8.

-Bob

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 11:44 AM Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:
This packrats newsletter (attached) has some discussion on FTx in VHF/UHF contests, along with some proposals for making the most of the situation. IMO, a small bandaid on a gaping wound, but at least they’re trying.

Bruce AA5B





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