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Re: from DM63

Michael Daly
 

Bruce,
That's a lot of weight on the trailer hitch.
Good going.
Mike, n5sj

-----Original Message-----
From: main@nmvhf.groups.io [mailto:main@nmvhf.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bruce
Draper
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:48 AM
To: nmvhf@groups.io
Subject: [nmvhf] from DM63

Here's a photo from my DM63 operation on Wednesday morning. Worked W9RM on
MSK144 for his last NM grid, along with about 15 other guys, plus 2 more on
FT8.

Bruce AA5B


Re: from DM63

Mike WB2FKO
 

Congratulations, I imagine you are getting close to FFMA?

Mike WB2FKO

On 1/15/20 12:52 PM, Keith Morehouse wrote:
Bruce, you had good, consistent scatter pings whenever you were pointed my direction.  Real good for 300-350 miles. Thanks for going out and for the last DM-field grid.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020, 10:48 AM Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:
Here's a photo from my DM63 operation on Wednesday morning. Worked W9RM on MSK144 for his last NM grid, along with about 15 other guys, plus 2 more on FT8.

Bruce AA5B




Re: from DM63

Keith Morehouse
 

Bruce, you had good, consistent scatter pings whenever you were pointed my direction.  Real good for 300-350 miles. Thanks for going out and for the last DM-field grid.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG


On Wed, Jan 15, 2020, 10:48 AM Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:
Here's a photo from my DM63 operation on Wednesday morning. Worked W9RM on MSK144 for his last NM grid, along with about 15 other guys, plus 2 more on FT8.

Bruce AA5B




from DM63

Bruce Draper
 

Here's a photo from my DM63 operation on Wednesday morning. Worked W9RM on MSK144 for his last NM grid, along with about 15 other guys, plus 2 more on FT8.

Bruce AA5B


New Mexico TechFest -- Presentation lineup, Online registration

Brian Mileshosky
 

Greetings — 

This note is to announce that the presentation, posterboard, and demo lineup for this year’s New Mexico TechFest has been released.  In addition, online registration for the event is now open!

Please visit https://www.rmham.org/wordpress/new-mexico-techfest to view the lineup, read the abstracts, and register to attend TechFest.

The sixth annual New Mexico TechFest, an ARRL-sanctioned operating specialty event sponsored by Rocky Mountain Ham Radio, will take place on Saturday, February 29, 2020.  TechFest features a day of quality presentations and demonstrations provided by some of New Mexico and Colorado’s leading technical hams on a variety of emerging and relevant topics within amateur radio.  Its purpose is to facilitate the sharing of technical knowledge and collaboration within the amateur radio community, and to encourage the discussion of new ideas with one another.

TechFest is open to all interested hams and will occur at the New Mexico Veterans’ Memorial Event Center located at 1100 Louisiana Blvd SE, Albuquerque, NM 87108.  Admission is $10.

Presentation-related prizes will be drawn throughout the event. Refreshments including coffee, water, and light snacks will be available. Optional lunch, catered by local small business, will be available at an additional cost.

In addition, this year’s TechFest will feature the launch of a pico balloon, intended to travel across the country and possibly the world while carrying a VHF APRS or HF WSPR beacon.  Ham will be able to track the location of this balloon online once launched.

Additional details about the New Mexico TechFest can be found at http://www.rmham.org/wordpress/new-mexico-techfest 

73,
Brian N5ZGT
Rocky Mountain Ham Radio — New Mexico


FW: Selling Icom IC-706MKIIG

Michael Daly
 

This from Jim who moved to Albuquerque recently from the east.

Mike

 

From: Jim Kunowsky [mailto:K4ECP@q.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 4:13 PM
To: Mike Daly <arrowengineering1@...>
Subject: Selling Icom IC-706MKIIG

 

Hi Mike,

 

I thought you may know of someone looking for a nice rig.  I am wanting to sell my 706 as I want to upgrade to the IC-7100.  I will be asking $560.00 for a local buyer.  If I don’t sell it locally I will either list it on QRZ and/or Ebay for more to cover fees and shipping.  It would include the rig, power cable and hand mic.

 

Please let me know if you happen to know of anyone looking for a good used rig -

 

73 Jim K4ECP


Re: W9RM - JANUARY VHF test

Jay
 

Mike,
Have fun at K5QE.
Looking you work you all on scatter on 6-2-222. (Maybe EME for 222).

- Jay

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 11:48 AM Mike WB2FKO <mph@...> wrote:
Yes, there is more to do this weekend than watch football. I will be
part of the K5QE multi-op in EM31.  Don't know where Marshall will
assign me, but I hope to be running meteor scatter at some point. We
will be looking for real-time skeds on Pingjockey or slack!

Mike WB2FKO





Re: W9RM - JANUARY VHF test

Mike WB2FKO
 

Yes, there is more to do this weekend than watch football. I will be part of the K5QE multi-op in EM31.  Don't know where Marshall will assign me, but I hope to be running meteor scatter at some point. We will be looking for real-time skeds on Pingjockey or slack!

Mike WB2FKO


Re: NMVHF SLACK chat page during this weekends JANUARY VHF CONTEST

Mike WB2FKO
 

No formal invite needed. Use the link in the upper-left corner here:

http://www.nmvhf.org/chat/

WB2FKO

On 1/14/20 12:14 PM, Keith Morehouse wrote:
A reminder to all - the club has a Slack workspace page that has been quite useful in past contests.  It's super easy to switch back and forth between it and the VHF Slack pages formed by N5TM, which is widely used as a chat hub here in the SW and NW USA.  These Slack workspaces have become one of two normal places to meet and set up 50 MHz+ skeds (the other being PingJockey).


If you're not currently signed up for it, there is an "invite" process, although I'm not sure who has to do the inviting.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


W9RM - JANUARY VHF test

Keith Morehouse
 

The ARRL JANUARY VHF TEST is this coming weekend.

I will be around to help with multipliers.  If someone needs/wants a sked with DM58 let me know - you're not gonna work the grid unless you work me !

I will not be up full time - too few people to work.  But I'll be there when it counts or for your sked.  Yes, I will (grudgingly) work you on FT8 - sigh...

50  - 7el x2 + 5el fixed NW and KW
144 - 5WL beam at 50' and 600W
222 - 5WL beam at 70' and 500W
432 - 9WL beam at 75' and KW
900 & 1296 - on the shelf - nobody to work out here

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


NMVHF SLACK chat page during this weekends JANUARY VHF CONTEST

Keith Morehouse
 

A reminder to all - the club has a Slack workspace page that has been quite useful in past contests.  It's super easy to switch back and forth between it and the VHF Slack pages formed by N5TM, which is widely used as a chat hub here in the SW and NW USA.  These Slack workspaces have become one of two normal places to meet and set up 50 MHz+ skeds (the other being PingJockey).


If you're not currently signed up for it, there is an "invite" process, although I'm not sure who has to do the inviting.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


New world-wide 70 cm tropo record

Keith Morehouse
 

Very cool - 4562 KM ! ! ! 
Only 100W on the north end of the path.


-W9RM
 
Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


New Mexico TechFest -- Presentation call reminder

Brian Mileshosky
 

Greetings — 

If you are interested in providing a presentation, posterboard, or demonstration at the 2020 New Mexico TechFest next February, this is a kind reminder to submit your proposal(s) before the January 1 deadline, just about a week from now.

CALL FOR TECHFEST PRESENTATIONS, POSTERBOARDS, AND DEMONSTRATIONS: The New Mexico TechFest is seeking presentations, posterboards, and demos on emerging and relevant amateur radio technical topics, techniques, and applications.   If you’ve been working on a special project, are researching a technical topic, or have discovered or adopted a technology or technique that you’re applying within amateur radio, TechFest is a great venue to share your knowledge with the amateur radio community in a casual and friendly environment.  Presentations will generally be 50 minutes in total length.  Shorter posterboard talks and demos will also occur throughout the day.  AC-powered tables will be provided to facilitate presentations and demos.  Hams interested in providing a presentation, posterboard, or demonstration are asked to submit a summary/abstract of their proposed topic for consideration by January 1, 2020. Visit the New Mexico TechFest website for submission details and key dates.

Rocky Mountain Ham Radio - New Mexico (RMHR-NM) is pleased to announce its sixth annual New Mexico TechFest, an ARRL-sanctioned operating specialty event, on Saturday, February 29, 2020.  TechFest features a day of quality presentations and demonstrations provided by some of New Mexico and Colorado’s leading technical hams on a variety of emerging and relevant topics within amateur radio.  Its purpose is to facilitate the sharing of technical knowledge and collaboration within the amateur radio community, and to encourage the discussion of new ideas with one another.

TechFest is open to all interested hams and will occur at the New Mexico Veterans’ Memorial Event Center located at 1100 Louisiana Blvd SE, Albuquerque, NM 87108.  Admission is $10.  Online registration will open on or about the week of January 6, when the event’s lineup of presentations, posterboards, and demonstrations is announced.

Presentation-related prizes will be drawn throughout the event. Refreshments including coffee, water, and light snacks will be available. Optional lunch, catered by local small business, will be available at an additional cost.

Additional details about the New Mexico TechFest, for both attendees and potential presenters, can be found at http://www.rmham.org/wordpress/new-mexico-techfest  A printable event flyer for posting on ham listserves, your club’s website, or your club’s newsletter is attached.

73,
Brian N5ZGT (President, Rocky Mountain Ham Radio — New Mexico)





Re: DM63

Keith Morehouse
 

To get any kind of efficiency on M/S, you really need to be out beyond 450-500 miles.  That's been my minimum distance cut-off for contest schedules for many years.  So, the farther, the better.  Being able to elevate is the biggest advantage when close in.

BUT, from DM58, I have made dozens of 6M scatter contacts in the 250-400 miles range.  These have been with well equipped stations (500W, 5+ ele antennas) and with mobiles/rovers running anything from whips to 2-3 element beams.  I've worked George, KF2T, all through NV when he's been running nothing more than a halo and 100W.  I don't know what kind of scatter some of these Q's were.  Some appeared to be traditional M/S, with occasional short pings.  Some had longer bursts and flutter-type sounds.  Some were troposcatter - constant, fluttery, weak but easily copied by WSJT.  Because of the short range of most of these Q's, I doubt the major propagation mode were meteors, but the Q was made and logged.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 9:06 PM Steve London <n2ic@...> wrote:
Would it help the meteor scatter possibilities if it was done from T or C, 70
miles farther from W9RM ?

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 12/23/2019 05:48 PM, James Duffey wrote:
> I must confess that I have been remiss in uploading my rover sites to NMVHF.org.
> I will try to do that in the new year. Here is a site that I have operated from
> in DM63.  It is a pullout in Hwy1 south of Socorro, just before HWY crosses over
> I25. It is about as close to the northern border of DM63 as you can easily get
> to from Albuquerque. There is plenty of space to set up there and there wasn’t
> much traffic or many lookie loos when I was there. It was quiet as there are no
> power lines, that I remember anyway.  It is about 320 miles to W9RM from there.
>
> I ran a Radio Mobile path calculation and the predicted SNR is about -1dB. That
> is probably optimistic in NM and winter. None the less it indicates it is a
> workable path. You might be able to make it on CW. In comparison, the water
> tower at TorC site has a calculated SNR of +1 dB.  The McDonalds parking lot
> calculated SNR is -20dB.  The limiting terrain is at W9RM’s end. These SNRs are
> probably high by 5 to 10dB.
>
> FT8 should work better at those distances than meteor scatter.  With meteor
> scatter and no antenna elevation, one end or the other may be better off
> pointing 180 degrees off the direct path and working meteors off the back.
>
> I hope this helps. -Duffey KK6MC
>
>
>
> James Duffey KK6MC
> Cedar Crest NM
>
>> On Dec 23, 2019, at 16:31, Bill <bill4070@...> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> The NMVHF.org website shows, under the "reference" pulldown some good
>> operating spots for rovers and portable operators. Scott, Steve and Jim
>> identified 3 good operating spots.  I would ask each of you to capture this
>> info in the format shown on the website for future operators. We made good use
>> of this info, as it was, during the 2017 contest year when the Central States
>> VHF Conference was held in Albuquerque.  There were many operators who decided
>> to stay in the area and operate the August contest using info from the
>> website.  We got some good feedback about documented operating spots and how
>> easy it was for someone unfamiliar with the area to plan and execute their
>> contesting activities.
>>
>> So, that's why we have that info available and I would like to encourage
>> everyone with "tribal knowledge" to contribute to that info published on our
>> website.
>>
>> When complete, just forward that info to Mike WB2FKO for upload to the website.
>>
>> Thanks a bunch,
>>
>> Bill W7QQ
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 9:51 AM Keith Morehouse <w9rm@...
>> <mailto:w9rm@...>> wrote:
>>
>>     Jim, that's good info for future VHF contesting and should be stored
>>     somewhere - the same with K5TA's and N2IC's descriptions..  On the NMVHF
>>     web site, there are descriptions of hot spots in many different grids.  It
>>     would be pretty neat if more people could use the format already presented
>>     there and write up grid spots they are familiar with.
>>
>>     In this particular instance, pretty much any reasonable location will work
>>     for meteor scatter.  Actually, at this close distance (DM63 to DM58),
>>     elevating antennas up to 5-10 degrees above the horizon would enhance the
>>     path, although I can't do this at my end on 6.  However, Rovers should
>>     keep this in mind.  The display screen of WSJT & WSJT-X, which is the
>>     program must everybody uses when running M/S now-a-days, actually has an
>>     elevation number displayed, which is simply calculated on the distance
>>     between you and who you're trying to work.
>>
>>     -W9RM
>>
>>     Keith J Morehouse
>>     Managing Partner
>>     Calmesa Partners G.P.
>>     Olathe, CO
>>
>>
>>     On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 7:27 PM KC7QY <kc7qy@...
>>     <mailto:kc7qy@...>> wrote:
>>
>>         Bruce,
>>
>>         Ideally you'd want to go up to Magdalena Ridge. At 10,000 ft this is
>>         not a particularly good time to try that though, I can see the snow up
>>         there from town now. AA5PR ran from up there as a rover last June with
>>         WSJT. The DM63 line is just south of Socorro, the line runs just about
>>         through the landfill. If you take the old Hwy 1 south from Socorro,
>>         once you pass the landfill there are a couple of pullouts where one
>>         could set up. A bit farther south, without crossing I-25 on Hwy 1 but
>>         continuing south,you can access some open country, mostly BLM land
>>         with pretty good shots to the north and east. There's an old AT&T
>>         tower down there and the road turns west and rises into the foothills.
>>         Plenty of open space to operate.
>>
>>         West from here we do have the two ridges but I have been able to work
>>         AZ and southern CA with my 3 el and 100 wts pretty regularly.
>>
>>         Jim KC7QY
>>
>>
>>         On Sunday, December 22, 2019, 02:34:41 PM MST, Bruce Draper
>>         <bruceaa5b@... <mailto:bruceaa5b@...>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>         Timely.
>>         I was going to send you eMail in the next couple of days. I'm finally
>>         back in NM and can do it soon. We have company this week, but next
>>         week is open. I have 3 elements, 500 Watts.
>>
>>
>>         On Dec 22, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Keith Morehouse <w9rm@...
>>         <mailto:w9rm@...>> wrote:
>>
>>>         Would anyone be willing to take a trip to DM63 with equipment to run
>>>         meteor scatter (or brute force troposcatter if you can run power)
>>>         with me ?  For M/S, 100W and a 3 element beam would probably do the
>>>         trick - more is better, of course...
>>>
>>>         That's the only grid I've never worked in NM on 6.  Maybe during the
>>>         January VHF test in a couple weeks or the weekend after New Years for
>>>         the peak of the Quadrantids ??  With decent equipment on your end, it
>>>         should be an easy shot and I'm sure there would be other interested
>>>         parties.
>>>
>>>         -W9RM
>>>
>>>         Keith J Morehouse
>>>         Managing Partner
>>>         Calmesa Partners G.P.
>>>         Olathe, CO
>>
>




Re: DM63

Steve London
 

Would it help the meteor scatter possibilities if it was done from T or C, 70 miles farther from W9RM ?

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 12/23/2019 05:48 PM, James Duffey wrote:
I must confess that I have been remiss in uploading my rover sites to NMVHF.org. I will try to do that in the new year. Here is a site that I have operated from in DM63.  It is a pullout in Hwy1 south of Socorro, just before HWY crosses over I25. It is about as close to the northern border of DM63 as you can easily get to from Albuquerque. There is plenty of space to set up there and there wasn’t much traffic or many lookie loos when I was there. It was quiet as there are no power lines, that I remember anyway.  It is about 320 miles to W9RM from there.
I ran a Radio Mobile path calculation and the predicted SNR is about -1dB. That is probably optimistic in NM and winter. None the less it indicates it is a workable path. You might be able to make it on CW. In comparison, the water tower at TorC site has a calculated SNR of +1 dB.  The McDonalds parking lot calculated SNR is -20dB.  The limiting terrain is at W9RM’s end. These SNRs are probably high by 5 to 10dB.
FT8 should work better at those distances than meteor scatter.  With meteor scatter and no antenna elevation, one end or the other may be better off pointing 180 degrees off the direct path and working meteors off the back.
I hope this helps. -Duffey KK6MC
James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Dec 23, 2019, at 16:31, Bill <bill4070@gmail.com> wrote:


The NMVHF.org website shows, under the "reference" pulldown some good operating spots for rovers and portable operators. Scott, Steve and Jim identified 3 good operating spots.  I would ask each of you to capture this info in the format shown on the website for future operators. We made good use of this info, as it was, during the 2017 contest year when the Central States VHF Conference was held in Albuquerque.  There were many operators who decided to stay in the area and operate the August contest using info from the website.  We got some good feedback about documented operating spots and how easy it was for someone unfamiliar with the area to plan and execute their contesting activities.

So, that's why we have that info available and I would like to encourage everyone with "tribal knowledge" to contribute to that info published on our website.

When complete, just forward that info to Mike WB2FKO for upload to the website.

Thanks a bunch,

Bill W7QQ

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 9:51 AM Keith Morehouse <w9rm@calmesapartners.com <mailto:w9rm@calmesapartners.com>> wrote:

Jim, that's good info for future VHF contesting and should be stored
somewhere - the same with K5TA's and N2IC's descriptions..  On the NMVHF
web site, there are descriptions of hot spots in many different grids.  It
would be pretty neat if more people could use the format already presented
there and write up grid spots they are familiar with.

In this particular instance, pretty much any reasonable location will work
for meteor scatter.  Actually, at this close distance (DM63 to DM58),
elevating antennas up to 5-10 degrees above the horizon would enhance the
path, although I can't do this at my end on 6.  However, Rovers should
keep this in mind.  The display screen of WSJT & WSJT-X, which is the
program must everybody uses when running M/S now-a-days, actually has an
elevation number displayed, which is simply calculated on the distance
between you and who you're trying to work.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 7:27 PM KC7QY <kc7qy@att.net
<mailto:kc7qy@att.net>> wrote:

Bruce,

Ideally you'd want to go up to Magdalena Ridge. At 10,000 ft this is
not a particularly good time to try that though, I can see the snow up
there from town now. AA5PR ran from up there as a rover last June with
WSJT. The DM63 line is just south of Socorro, the line runs just about
through the landfill. If you take the old Hwy 1 south from Socorro,
once you pass the landfill there are a couple of pullouts where one
could set up. A bit farther south, without crossing I-25 on Hwy 1 but
continuing south,you can access some open country, mostly BLM land
with pretty good shots to the north and east. There's an old AT&T
tower down there and the road turns west and rises into the foothills.
Plenty of open space to operate.

West from here we do have the two ridges but I have been able to work
AZ and southern CA with my 3 el and 100 wts pretty regularly.

Jim KC7QY


On Sunday, December 22, 2019, 02:34:41 PM MST, Bruce Draper
<bruceaa5b@gmail.com <mailto:bruceaa5b@gmail.com>> wrote:


Timely.
I was going to send you eMail in the next couple of days. I'm finally
back in NM and can do it soon. We have company this week, but next
week is open. I have 3 elements, 500 Watts.


On Dec 22, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Keith Morehouse <w9rm@calmesapartners.com
<mailto:w9rm@calmesapartners.com>> wrote:

Would anyone be willing to take a trip to DM63 with equipment to run
meteor scatter (or brute force troposcatter if you can run power)
with me ?  For M/S, 100W and a 3 element beam would probably do the
trick - more is better, of course...

That's the only grid I've never worked in NM on 6.  Maybe during the
January VHF test in a couple weeks or the weekend after New Years for
the peak of the Quadrantids ??  With decent equipment on your end, it
should be an easy shot and I'm sure there would be other interested
parties.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


Re: DM63

Arne N7KA
 

Looks like exit at 147 then immediate left onto 1 south.  Return to 25N is via same exit 147.  Look a GOOGLE MAP

Arne N7KA

On December 23, 2019 at 5:48 PM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:

I must confess that I have been remiss in uploading my rover sites to NMVHF.org. I will try to do that in the new year. Here is a site that I have operated from in DM63.  It is a pullout in Hwy1 south of Socorro, just before HWY crosses over I25. It is about as close to the northern border of DM63 as you can easily get to from Albuquerque. There is plenty of space to set up there and there wasn’t much traffic or many lookie loos when I was there. It was quiet as there are no power lines, that I remember anyway.  It is about 320 miles to W9RM from there. 

I ran a Radio Mobile path calculation and the predicted SNR is about -1dB. That is probably optimistic in NM and winter. None the less it indicates it is a workable path. You might be able to make it on CW. In comparison, the water tower at TorC site has a calculated SNR of +1 dB.  The McDonalds parking lot calculated SNR is -20dB.  The limiting terrain is at W9RM’s end. These SNRs are probably high by 5 to 10dB. 

FT8 should work better at those distances than meteor scatter.  With meteor scatter and no antenna elevation, one end or the other may be better off pointing 180 degrees off the direct path and working meteors off the back. 

I hope this helps. -Duffey KK6MC



James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Dec 23, 2019, at 16:31, Bill <bill4070@...> wrote:

The NMVHF.org website shows, under the "reference" pulldown some good operating spots for rovers and portable operators. Scott, Steve and Jim identified 3 good operating spots.  I would ask each of you to capture this info in the format shown on the website for future operators. We made good use of this info, as it was, during the 2017 contest year when the Central States VHF Conference was held in Albuquerque.  There were many operators who decided to stay in the area and operate the August contest using info from the website.  We got some good feedback about documented operating spots and how easy it was for someone unfamiliar with the area to plan and execute their contesting activities. 

So, that's why we have that info available and I would like to encourage everyone with "tribal knowledge" to contribute to that info published on our website.

When complete, just forward that info to Mike WB2FKO for upload to the website.

Thanks a bunch,

Bill W7QQ

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 9:51 AM Keith Morehouse < w9rm@...> wrote:
Jim, that's good info for future VHF contesting and should be stored somewhere - the same with K5TA's and N2IC's descriptions..  On the NMVHF web site, there are descriptions of hot spots in many different grids.  It would be pretty neat if more people could use the format already presented there and write up grid spots they are familiar with.

In this particular instance, pretty much any reasonable location will work for meteor scatter.  Actually, at this close distance (DM63 to DM58), elevating antennas up to 5-10 degrees above the horizon would enhance the path, although I can't do this at my end on 6.  However, Rovers should keep this in mind.  The display screen of WSJT & WSJT-X, which is the program must everybody uses when running M/S now-a-days, actually has an elevation number displayed, which is simply calculated on the distance between you and who you're trying to work.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 7:27 PM KC7QY < kc7qy@...> wrote:
Bruce,

Ideally you'd want to go up to Magdalena Ridge. At 10,000 ft this is not a particularly good time to try that though, I can see the snow up there from town now. AA5PR ran from up there as a rover last June with WSJT. The DM63 line is just south of Socorro, the line runs just about through the landfill. If you take the old Hwy 1 south from Socorro, once you pass the landfill there are a couple of pullouts where one could set up. A bit farther south, without crossing I-25 on Hwy 1 but continuing south,you can access some open country, mostly BLM land with pretty good shots to the north and east. There's an old AT&T tower down there and the road turns west and rises into the foothills. Plenty of open space to operate. 

West from here we do have the two ridges but I have been able to work AZ and southern CA with my 3 el and 100 wts pretty regularly.

Jim KC7QY


On Sunday, December 22, 2019, 02:34:41 PM MST, Bruce Draper < bruceaa5b@...> wrote:


Timely.  
I was going to send you eMail in the next couple of days. I'm finally back in NM and can do it soon. We have company this week, but next week is open. I have 3 elements, 500 Watts. 


On Dec 22, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Keith Morehouse < w9rm@...> wrote:

Would anyone be willing to take a trip to DM63 with equipment to run meteor scatter (or brute force troposcatter if you can run power) with me ?  For M/S, 100W and a 3 element beam would probably do the trick - more is better, of course...

That's the only grid I've never worked in NM on 6.  Maybe during the January VHF test in a couple weeks or the weekend after New Years for the peak of the Quadrantids ??  With decent equipment on your end, it should be an easy shot and I'm sure there would be other interested parties.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO
 

 

 

 

 


 


Re: DM63

James Duffey
 

I must confess that I have been remiss in uploading my rover sites to NMVHF.org. I will try to do that in the new year. Here is a site that I have operated from in DM63.  It is a pullout in Hwy1 south of Socorro, just before HWY crosses over I25. It is about as close to the northern border of DM63 as you can easily get to from Albuquerque. There is plenty of space to set up there and there wasn’t much traffic or many lookie loos when I was there. It was quiet as there are no power lines, that I remember anyway.  It is about 320 miles to W9RM from there. 

I ran a Radio Mobile path calculation and the predicted SNR is about -1dB. That is probably optimistic in NM and winter. None the less it indicates it is a workable path. You might be able to make it on CW. In comparison, the water tower at TorC site has a calculated SNR of +1 dB.  The McDonalds parking lot calculated SNR is -20dB.  The limiting terrain is at W9RM’s end. These SNRs are probably high by 5 to 10dB. 

FT8 should work better at those distances than meteor scatter.  With meteor scatter and no antenna elevation, one end or the other may be better off pointing 180 degrees off the direct path and working meteors off the back. 

I hope this helps. -Duffey KK6MC



James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Dec 23, 2019, at 16:31, Bill <bill4070@...> wrote:


The NMVHF.org website shows, under the "reference" pulldown some good operating spots for rovers and portable operators. Scott, Steve and Jim identified 3 good operating spots.  I would ask each of you to capture this info in the format shown on the website for future operators. We made good use of this info, as it was, during the 2017 contest year when the Central States VHF Conference was held in Albuquerque.  There were many operators who decided to stay in the area and operate the August contest using info from the website.  We got some good feedback about documented operating spots and how easy it was for someone unfamiliar with the area to plan and execute their contesting activities. 

So, that's why we have that info available and I would like to encourage everyone with "tribal knowledge" to contribute to that info published on our website.

When complete, just forward that info to Mike WB2FKO for upload to the website.

Thanks a bunch,

Bill W7QQ

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 9:51 AM Keith Morehouse <w9rm@...> wrote:
Jim, that's good info for future VHF contesting and should be stored somewhere - the same with K5TA's and N2IC's descriptions..  On the NMVHF web site, there are descriptions of hot spots in many different grids.  It would be pretty neat if more people could use the format already presented there and write up grid spots they are familiar with.

In this particular instance, pretty much any reasonable location will work for meteor scatter.  Actually, at this close distance (DM63 to DM58), elevating antennas up to 5-10 degrees above the horizon would enhance the path, although I can't do this at my end on 6.  However, Rovers should keep this in mind.  The display screen of WSJT & WSJT-X, which is the program must everybody uses when running M/S now-a-days, actually has an elevation number displayed, which is simply calculated on the distance between you and who you're trying to work.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 7:27 PM KC7QY <kc7qy@...> wrote:
Bruce,

Ideally you'd want to go up to Magdalena Ridge. At 10,000 ft this is not a particularly good time to try that though, I can see the snow up there from town now. AA5PR ran from up there as a rover last June with WSJT. The DM63 line is just south of Socorro, the line runs just about through the landfill. If you take the old Hwy 1 south from Socorro, once you pass the landfill there are a couple of pullouts where one could set up. A bit farther south, without crossing I-25 on Hwy 1 but continuing south,you can access some open country, mostly BLM land with pretty good shots to the north and east. There's an old AT&T tower down there and the road turns west and rises into the foothills. Plenty of open space to operate. 

West from here we do have the two ridges but I have been able to work AZ and southern CA with my 3 el and 100 wts pretty regularly.

Jim KC7QY


On Sunday, December 22, 2019, 02:34:41 PM MST, Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:


Timely.  
I was going to send you eMail in the next couple of days. I'm finally back in NM and can do it soon. We have company this week, but next week is open. I have 3 elements, 500 Watts. 


On Dec 22, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Keith Morehouse <w9rm@...> wrote:

Would anyone be willing to take a trip to DM63 with equipment to run meteor scatter (or brute force troposcatter if you can run power) with me ?  For M/S, 100W and a 3 element beam would probably do the trick - more is better, of course...

That's the only grid I've never worked in NM on 6.  Maybe during the January VHF test in a couple weeks or the weekend after New Years for the peak of the Quadrantids ??  With decent equipment on your end, it should be an easy shot and I'm sure there would be other interested parties.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


Re: DM63

Bill
 

The NMVHF.org website shows, under the "reference" pulldown some good operating spots for rovers and portable operators. Scott, Steve and Jim identified 3 good operating spots.  I would ask each of you to capture this info in the format shown on the website for future operators. We made good use of this info, as it was, during the 2017 contest year when the Central States VHF Conference was held in Albuquerque.  There were many operators who decided to stay in the area and operate the August contest using info from the website.  We got some good feedback about documented operating spots and how easy it was for someone unfamiliar with the area to plan and execute their contesting activities. 

So, that's why we have that info available and I would like to encourage everyone with "tribal knowledge" to contribute to that info published on our website.

When complete, just forward that info to Mike WB2FKO for upload to the website.

Thanks a bunch,

Bill W7QQ


On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 9:51 AM Keith Morehouse <w9rm@...> wrote:
Jim, that's good info for future VHF contesting and should be stored somewhere - the same with K5TA's and N2IC's descriptions..  On the NMVHF web site, there are descriptions of hot spots in many different grids.  It would be pretty neat if more people could use the format already presented there and write up grid spots they are familiar with.

In this particular instance, pretty much any reasonable location will work for meteor scatter.  Actually, at this close distance (DM63 to DM58), elevating antennas up to 5-10 degrees above the horizon would enhance the path, although I can't do this at my end on 6.  However, Rovers should keep this in mind.  The display screen of WSJT & WSJT-X, which is the program must everybody uses when running M/S now-a-days, actually has an elevation number displayed, which is simply calculated on the distance between you and who you're trying to work.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 7:27 PM KC7QY <kc7qy@...> wrote:
Bruce,

Ideally you'd want to go up to Magdalena Ridge. At 10,000 ft this is not a particularly good time to try that though, I can see the snow up there from town now. AA5PR ran from up there as a rover last June with WSJT. The DM63 line is just south of Socorro, the line runs just about through the landfill. If you take the old Hwy 1 south from Socorro, once you pass the landfill there are a couple of pullouts where one could set up. A bit farther south, without crossing I-25 on Hwy 1 but continuing south,you can access some open country, mostly BLM land with pretty good shots to the north and east. There's an old AT&T tower down there and the road turns west and rises into the foothills. Plenty of open space to operate. 

West from here we do have the two ridges but I have been able to work AZ and southern CA with my 3 el and 100 wts pretty regularly.

Jim KC7QY


On Sunday, December 22, 2019, 02:34:41 PM MST, Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:


Timely.  
I was going to send you eMail in the next couple of days. I'm finally back in NM and can do it soon. We have company this week, but next week is open. I have 3 elements, 500 Watts. 


On Dec 22, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Keith Morehouse <w9rm@...> wrote:

Would anyone be willing to take a trip to DM63 with equipment to run meteor scatter (or brute force troposcatter if you can run power) with me ?  For M/S, 100W and a 3 element beam would probably do the trick - more is better, of course...

That's the only grid I've never worked in NM on 6.  Maybe during the January VHF test in a couple weeks or the weekend after New Years for the peak of the Quadrantids ??  With decent equipment on your end, it should be an easy shot and I'm sure there would be other interested parties.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


Re: January VHF contest roving plans?

Keith Morehouse
 

I will be "in the chair" as much as possible up here in the wilds of DM58 - supporting whomever goes out roving and stays in range. 6 through 432 with high power and decent antennas...

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 11:19 PM John Klem <klemjf@...> wrote:
Anyone have plans yet for roving during the January contest?  I expect to be a bit more agile this time around, but haven't figured out where I'm going.  I'd be happy to coordinate to maximize grid coverage.
John AA5PR


Re: DM63

Keith Morehouse
 

Jim, that's good info for future VHF contesting and should be stored somewhere - the same with K5TA's and N2IC's descriptions..  On the NMVHF web site, there are descriptions of hot spots in many different grids.  It would be pretty neat if more people could use the format already presented there and write up grid spots they are familiar with.

In this particular instance, pretty much any reasonable location will work for meteor scatter.  Actually, at this close distance (DM63 to DM58), elevating antennas up to 5-10 degrees above the horizon would enhance the path, although I can't do this at my end on 6.  However, Rovers should keep this in mind.  The display screen of WSJT & WSJT-X, which is the program must everybody uses when running M/S now-a-days, actually has an elevation number displayed, which is simply calculated on the distance between you and who you're trying to work.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 7:27 PM KC7QY <kc7qy@...> wrote:
Bruce,

Ideally you'd want to go up to Magdalena Ridge. At 10,000 ft this is not a particularly good time to try that though, I can see the snow up there from town now. AA5PR ran from up there as a rover last June with WSJT. The DM63 line is just south of Socorro, the line runs just about through the landfill. If you take the old Hwy 1 south from Socorro, once you pass the landfill there are a couple of pullouts where one could set up. A bit farther south, without crossing I-25 on Hwy 1 but continuing south,you can access some open country, mostly BLM land with pretty good shots to the north and east. There's an old AT&T tower down there and the road turns west and rises into the foothills. Plenty of open space to operate. 

West from here we do have the two ridges but I have been able to work AZ and southern CA with my 3 el and 100 wts pretty regularly.

Jim KC7QY


On Sunday, December 22, 2019, 02:34:41 PM MST, Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:


Timely.  
I was going to send you eMail in the next couple of days. I'm finally back in NM and can do it soon. We have company this week, but next week is open. I have 3 elements, 500 Watts. 


On Dec 22, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Keith Morehouse <w9rm@...> wrote:

Would anyone be willing to take a trip to DM63 with equipment to run meteor scatter (or brute force troposcatter if you can run power) with me ?  For M/S, 100W and a 3 element beam would probably do the trick - more is better, of course...

That's the only grid I've never worked in NM on 6.  Maybe during the January VHF test in a couple weeks or the weekend after New Years for the peak of the Quadrantids ??  With decent equipment on your end, it should be an easy shot and I'm sure there would be other interested parties.

-W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO

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