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New Mexico QSO Party -- 2019 Results posted

Brian Mileshosky
 

Greetings --

The 2019 New Mexico QSO Party, which took place last April, was another great success. Hams from all over New Mexico, the United States, and the world took to HF and 6 meters for a day of fun and enjoyment. A huge thank you goes to the members and leadership of the Valencia County Amateur Radio Association who sponsored this year's event, as well as to the individuals and clubs who sponsored this year's plaque awards. And, of course, to every person and ham club who participated in the QSO Party.

Here are some statistics from this year's event:

— Logs submitted: 129
— Total NMQP QSOs logged: 4,392
— Unique New Mexico stations logged: 89
— New Mexico logs submitted: 48
— New Mexico club affiliations reported in logs: 14
— New Mexico counties activated: 30 of 33 (not activated: Catron, Colfax, Hidalgo)
— US states logged: 49 of 50
— Canadian provinces logged: 7 of 13
— Countries/DXCC entities logged: 11

Complete results, broken down by operating category as well as special awards can be found under the "Results" link at www.newmexicoqsoparty.org Pictures contributed by those who participated this year will be added to the album found by clicking on the “Photos” link.

Congratulations to all! Plaques and participant certificates will be produced and delivered in the coming weeks.

The New Mexico QSO Party returns on the second Saturday of April 2020 -- we hope you and your club will join the fun.

73,
Brian N5ZGT


Re: KK6MC talk on VHF at ADXA meeting 1730 MDT June 26 at Copper Canyon Cafe

James Duffey
 

Thanks Bill.

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jun 25, 2019, at 11:15, Bill <bill4070@...> wrote:

Copper Canyon Cafe is located at 5455 Gibson Blvd SE in Albuquerque. That's between cross streets San Mateo and San Pedro.

Bill W7QQ

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:13 AM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
I will be presenting an introduction to VHF operation, mostly 6M, at the Albuquerque DX Association meeting this Wednesday, June 26. You do not need to be a member to attend. All are welcome. The meeting starts at 1730 with dinner, on your own. The presentation will begin between 1830 and 1900 and last about an hour.

I hope to see you there! - KK6MC

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM




Re: KK6MC talk on VHF at ADXA meeting 1730 MDT June 26 at Copper Canyon Cafe

Bill
 

Copper Canyon Cafe is located at 5455 Gibson Blvd SE in Albuquerque. That's between cross streets San Mateo and San Pedro.

Bill W7QQ


On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:13 AM James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:
I will be presenting an introduction to VHF operation, mostly 6M, at the Albuquerque DX Association meeting this Wednesday, June 26. You do not need to be a member to attend. All are welcome. The meeting starts at 1730 with dinner, on your own. The presentation will begin between 1830 and 1900 and last about an hour.

I hope to see you there! - KK6MC

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM




KK6MC talk on VHF at ADXA meeting 1730 MDT June 26 at Copper Canyon Cafe

James Duffey
 

I will be presenting an introduction to VHF operation, mostly 6M, at the Albuquerque DX Association meeting this Wednesday, June 26. You do not need to be a member to attend. All are welcome. The meeting starts at 1730 with dinner, on your own. The presentation will begin between 1830 and 1900 and last about an hour.

I hope to see you there! - KK6MC

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM


Re: KK6MC/r in June VHF contest

Keith Morehouse
 

...dupes are ignored in the scoring process.  Both on your end and at the ARRL.  Dupes do not alter your score.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG


On Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 6:58 PM John Klem <klemjf@...> wrote:
Perhaps the dupe fear is related to the apocalyptic warning that at least my logging software issues when I'm about to enter one?  Please tell me and perhaps a few other inexperienced contesters why we shouldn't worry.  I'm guessing dupes are ignored somewhere in the scoring process?  Are they properly ignored in the score my logging software generates?

John, AA5PR


Re: KK6MC/r in June VHF contest

Bill
 

John,

It's always best to log QSOs reported as dupes wherever a conflict is indicated.  Unlike some contests, there is no penalty for dupes in ARRL VHF contests. It is an unfortunate  certainty that one of the stations will miss the score when either station indicates there's a dupe. On the few occasions I've run into someone hard headed I simply say that I'll look into it, may I have your grid please so I can verify my findings.  I've never run into someone who does not provide that info even though he/she may fight over whether or not they'll "work you again". A second approach is to ask for the date/time at which they have you listed as a contact.  Most logging programs provide that info. Real dupes are not counted for score or a mult.

That said, always, ALWAYS log the latest contact, even if you find a log error. There's nothing to lose.

NMVHF Society has a subject matter expert covering contesting and logging (W9RM Keith) if you want to learn more about the intricacies.

73 Bill W7QQ


On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 5:58 PM John Klem <klemjf@...> wrote:
Perhaps the dupe fear is related to the apocalyptic warning that at least my logging software issues when I'm about to enter one?  Please tell me and perhaps a few other inexperienced contesters why we shouldn't worry.  I'm guessing dupes are ignored somewhere in the scoring process?  Are they properly ignored in the score my logging software generates?

John, AA5PR


Re: KK6MC/r in June VHF contest

John Klem
 

Perhaps the dupe fear is related to the apocalyptic warning that at least my logging software issues when I'm about to enter one?  Please tell me and perhaps a few other inexperienced contesters why we shouldn't worry.  I'm guessing dupes are ignored somewhere in the scoring process?  Are they properly ignored in the score my logging software generates?

John, AA5PR


Re: [VHFcontesting] Digital Modes (FT8) in January 2019 Contest

Jonesy W3DHJ
 

On Wed, 19 Jun 2019, Dave Miller wrote:

Nomex suit on
I think the simple solution is to make FT8 contacts worth 0.001 pts per QSO.
Keep 6M in contest as when it opens it one of few wasy to get mults when
you live on BC
Solves all problem.
Nomex suit off
Dave
VE7HR
hmmmmmm....
Interesting.

I had thought about
Points per Contact:
CW 3
Ph 2
Digital 1

Jonesy
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Re: [VHFcontesting] Digital Modes (FT8) in January 2019 Contest

Keith Morehouse
 

Where I live, EVERY contact on 2M and above is DX.  There may be 5-10 local QSOs to be made, but many of them are only available because I moved them from 6.  The closest concentration of 'above 6M ops' ( "Above's" ?? ) is 250 miles away.  I work more 2M stations on meteor scatter then locals.

I live and die by 6M openings and, like Paul, I can be nationally competitive in June if 6M cooperates.  I'm also a little strange, evidently (according to some), because I do VHF contests specifically to run rate.  Massive rate.... I'm addicted to rate.  This is why I have issues with FT8 attracting a lot of ops off of SSB, but that's not what this thread is about.

Dropping 6M would be the death of serious VHF contesting for me and many others.  A lot of the big signals you hear on 6 in the western half of the county ONLY work 6.  We would all be gone or, at most, we would be giving out token multipliers on 2M scatter.  Knee jerk reactions have seriously hurt VHF contesting in the past (revised Rover rules....), don't make the same mistake.

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG


On Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 11:44 AM Paul Kiesel via VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting@...> wrote:
 I've finally come to the realization that digital is here to stay. I hate that not so many SSB and CW contacts can be made now during the contests. It's not that they are superior to FT8, but that operating in the contest is a hell of a lot less fun without them.

In recent years' June contests, I've competed in the Single Op/High Power category against all others in the same category. But, I've operated solely on 50 MHz because it's a challenge to beatothers who run many or all of the higher bands. It used to bother me a lot that I could beat others both in number of QSOs and number of multipliers and still not win because of the points advantages given for use of bands 222 MHz and above. Now, I welcome this challenge, even though I know I will not win in the category. But, the guys running all the high bands during the contest know they are competing against me. This makes operating on the higher bands an advantageous opportunity to my competition. The result of this is that they will make as many contacts as they can on all available bands while being careful to not neglect 50 MHz. Planning and coordination are important for them.

This is not the first time that people have suggested eliminating 50 MHz from the June contest. I don't think dumping six meters is going to solve anything, but make things worse. Rather, havingall VHF and higher bands as relevant in the contest is the way to go.
What bothers me more than the reduced use of SSB and CW in the contests is the fact that the digital modes are restricted to audio bandwidth zones. This could be considered an efficient use of spectrum, but actually the conditions during a contest or band opening in that narrow a zone are nothing less than horrid. All one needs is one strong station in the other FT8 sequence to ruin any possibility to compete or decode weak DX. And this problem is not going to go away by trying to enforce which stations call on even and which call on odd.

It may be time to think about rearranging the rules, but eliminating 50 MHz from the June contest would be a bad mistake. It would be better to consider either limiting the number of contacts that can be made using a single mode or by maybe having a suite of frequencies wherein FT8 QSOs could be made. As an example 50.310 to 50.320.

The June contest is unique and should be kept the way it is as much as possible. You shouldn't remove a band from the contest because people are choosing to use it!
73, Paul K7CW



    On Wednesday, June 19, 2019, 2:46:24 PM UTC, JamesDuffey <jamesduffey@...> wrote: 

 Chris - Thanks for your comments on the impact of FT8 on the January contest.

To your first point, I don’t think that the increase in 6M activity is due entirely to casual ops using digital modes (FT8) instead of SSB and CW. For one thing, this year there was a significant increase, about 19%  in the number of logs submitted in the contest over 2018 while the total number of QSOs in the contest only grew by about 3%; essentially remaining the same. If the digital mode ops are all casual they do a much better job of submitting logs than do the casual SSB ops.

The actual number, as well as the fraction of QSOs on all bands 144MHz and above decreased significantly over 2018. This strongly suggests that the increase in digital (FT8) activity came at the expense of QSOs on the higher bands.

I think that the increase in activity in the January Contest is good and welcome. I think that the decrease in the activity on the higher bands is not good. To me, it appears that both of these effects are due to the digital modes, in particular FT8. Interestingly enough, there does seem to be a significant number of FT8 ops, who once they saw how straight forward it was to make  digital QSOs, also tried MSK144, thereby increasing that activity as well.

I am not sure what the answer is, but I fear that all the VHF contests will become dominated by 6M, not just the June contest when Es is in. Perhaps it is time to rethink the contesting paradigm. - Duffey KK6MC


James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

> I have been wondering for a while where the FT8 VHF contest ops are
> coming from and if perhaps some of the community's concern is overblown.
> I see two possibilities:
>
> * Casual ops who have that HF+6 radio and get on to play around for a
> couple hours, get some new grids towards VUCC, etc.  In the past, these
> people would have done the same thing but on SSB.  I have a feeling her and
> there's a lot of them.  They are not serious contesters and were never
> going to be people you could work through the bands with.
>
> * More serious contesters who are wanting to try something new and are
> focusing much of their time on making digital contacts.  I feel like
> there are relatively few of these people due to their likely time and
> money investment in having gear for other bands.
>
> The first group wasn't going to have 2m, 70cm, and up beams and amps at
> home.  Not having digital modes available means we are losing points and
> some mults by not being able to work this group, but I don't have any
> concerns that I am missing higher band contacts due to the move from SSB
> to FT8 here.
>
> The second group is the one to be concerned with.  I haven't been here
> long enough to know what the answer is, so hopefully someone else does.
>
> Personally, my roving plan for at least future June contests is to have
> two ops.  One op will essentially be a mult station, dedicated to
> watching 6m on SSB and FT8 during openings (and also watching for when
> those openings occur).  The other op will be the points station and
> handle all the other bands.
>
> --
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Re: KK6MC/r in June VHF contest

Keith Morehouse
 

Golden Log syndrome ??

-RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG


On Tue, Jun 18, 2019, 11:55 PM Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:
I wish I had a recording of this exchange in the June contest, 6-meter phone. It was kinda funny, kinda irritating. 

K9GX: CQ contest CQ contest this is K 9 Germany X-ray (I think that was the call).
Me: Alpha alpha five bravo.
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe.
Me: You’re not in my log. 
Him: I can’t work you. CQ contest k 9 Germany xray.
Me: You’re not in my log, can we please work? delta mike 65
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe and I can’t work you. 
Me: You’re going to send in a log with me in it, I’m going to send in a log without you in it, and you’re going to be penalized. Can’t we just work now?
Him: I’m not going to argue with you, and I’m not going to work you. Cq cq cq contest...

All of that took at least 5 times longer that it would’ve to just work me. 

VHF is hard, I guess. 

    -Bruce AA5B




On Tuesday, June 18, 2019, James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:

K9YR was kind enough to forward these recordings of me in the June VHF contest from DM66. K9YR is in EN52. Conditions were very good. - Duffey KK6MC



James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM




Re: 2019 January VHF Contest Results on Line

John Klem
 

Great writeup, and I understand the concerns about FT8, but I'll reinforce what Mike says a bit with an exchange I had with another rover when I was in lonely DM83.  The attempt ultimately failed because he apparently couldn't hear me on 2, much to my disappointment.  Clumsy, inefficient, yes.  But possible, and still fun.  

John, AA5PR

190608_232215    50.313 Rx FT8     10  0.1 1229 AA5PR/R K5ND/R RRR
190608_232230    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0  666 K5ND/R AA5PR/R 73                    
190608_232245    50.313 Rx FT8      9  0.1 1228 AA5PR/R K5ND/R 73
190608_232300    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0  666 CQ TEST AA5PR/R DM83                
190608_232315    50.313 Rx FT8      5  0.1 1225 AA5PR/R TRY 2
190608_232330    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0  666 CQ TEST AA5PR/R DM83                
190608_232400    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0  666 K5ND OK                              
190608_232545   144.174 Rx FT8     -2  0.1 1215 CQ TEST K5ND/R DM94
190608_232600   144.174 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1500 K5ND/R AA5PR/R DM83                  


Re: 2019 January VHF Contest Results on Line

Mike WB2FKO
 

Good writeup, but I’m not at all pessimistic. Give it time. 2m will again be the band of choice in January VHF once people realize they can use FT8 there, specifically the national calling frequency of 144.174. No need to do anything to the WSJT-X software as custom 13 character free-form messages are already available for that purpose, eg. “QSY 50313” would do the trick. And don’t forget the availability of chat rooms during VHF contests to help folks find each other.

I think the primary reason ops were hanging out on 6m FT8 was for the chance to score a quick multiplier when the freak, short-lived Es pops up. There were quite a few of these in the recent January contest. Very doubtful these could be exploited with traditional analog modes. The best contesters are going to use all available tools to maximize their scores and having another one in the arsenal simply makes things more interesting. Exciting times ahead, yes, even on the higher bands.
 -FKO

On Jun 18, 2019, at 7:43 PM, James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:

The results writeup for the January 2019 VHF Contest are now on line:


The digital modes, in particular FT8,  played a major role in the January contest, increasing the logs submitted significantly. But the overall QSOs made in the contest remained the same. So, those additional digital QSOs came from the higher bands. I think this is not good. Please read my comments on this in the writeup and think about what it means for the future of VHF contesting, if you like that future, and what can be done to address the continued erosion of the bands above 144MHz in contesting. 

Thanks for all who participated in the January contest. - Duffey KK6MC


James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM


Re: KK6MC/r in June VHF contest

Jonesy W3DHJ
 

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, Bruce Draper wrote:

I wish I had a recording of this exchange in the June contest, 6-meter
phone. It was kinda funny, kinda irritating.

K9GX: CQ contest CQ contest this is K 9 Germany X-ray (I think that was the
call).
Me: Alpha alpha five bravo.
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe.
Me: You’re not in my log.
Him: I can’t work you. CQ contest k 9 Germany xray.
Me: You’re not in my log, can we please work? delta mike 65
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe and I can’t work you.
Me: You’re going to send in a log with me in it, I’m going to send in a log
without you in it, and you’re going to be penalized. Can’t we just work now?
Him: I’m not going to argue with you, and I’m not going to work you. Cq cq
cq contest...

All of that took at least 5 times longer that it would’ve to just work me.

VHF is hard, I guess.
Then there's the problem rovers have (usually on 6M) when working
someone new to VHF contesting and using a non-VHF logging program.

"You are a dupe"
"No, I am not. I am in new grid."
"Oh, does that make a difference?"
.......

The Q-rate is queered for awhile.

Jonesy
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Re: KK6MC/r in June VHF contest

James Duffey
 

Yeah, some people are clueless. Not sure why working dupes is a bad thing, but many contesters think it is.  

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

On Jun 18, 2019, at 21:55, Bruce Draper <bruceaa5b@...> wrote:

I wish I had a recording of this exchange in the June contest, 6-meter phone. It was kinda funny, kinda irritating. 

K9GX: CQ contest CQ contest this is K 9 Germany X-ray (I think that was the call).
Me: Alpha alpha five bravo.
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe.
Me: You’re not in my log. 
Him: I can’t work you. CQ contest k 9 Germany xray.
Me: You’re not in my log, can we please work? delta mike 65
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe and I can’t work you. 
Me: You’re going to send in a log with me in it, I’m going to send in a log without you in it, and you’re going to be penalized. Can’t we just work now?
Him: I’m not going to argue with you, and I’m not going to work you. Cq cq cq contest...

All of that took at least 5 times longer that it would’ve to just work me. 

VHF is hard, I guess. 

    -Bruce AA5B




On Tuesday, June 18, 2019, James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:

K9YR was kind enough to forward these recordings of me in the June VHF contest from DM66. K9YR is in EN52. Conditions were very good. - Duffey KK6MC



James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM




Re: KK6MC/r in June VHF contest

Bruce Draper
 

I wish I had a recording of this exchange in the June contest, 6-meter phone. It was kinda funny, kinda irritating. 

K9GX: CQ contest CQ contest this is K 9 Germany X-ray (I think that was the call).
Me: Alpha alpha five bravo.
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe.
Me: You’re not in my log. 
Him: I can’t work you. CQ contest k 9 Germany xray.
Me: You’re not in my log, can we please work? delta mike 65
Him: AA5B you’re a dupe and I can’t work you. 
Me: You’re going to send in a log with me in it, I’m going to send in a log without you in it, and you’re going to be penalized. Can’t we just work now?
Him: I’m not going to argue with you, and I’m not going to work you. Cq cq cq contest...

All of that took at least 5 times longer that it would’ve to just work me. 

VHF is hard, I guess. 

    -Bruce AA5B




On Tuesday, June 18, 2019, James Duffey <JamesDuffey@...> wrote:

K9YR was kind enough to forward these recordings of me in the June VHF contest from DM66. K9YR is in EN52. Conditions were very good. - Duffey KK6MC



James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM




Re: KK6MC/r in June VHF contest

Jonesy W3DHJ
 

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, James Duffey wrote:

K9YR was kind enough to forward these recordings of me in the June VHF
contest from DM66. K9YR is in EN52. Conditions were very good. - Duffey
KK6MC
Likewise, K9YR sent me a recording of myself when I
was hollering "CQ CONTEST" in DM77.
Like almost everyone, I don't believe I really sound
like that. HI!HI!
But, I feel good that my voice is so "legible" --
something I've always worried about.

73
Jonesy
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KK6MC/r in June VHF contest

James Duffey
 

K9YR was kind enough to forward these recordings of me in the June VHF contest from DM66. K9YR is in EN52. Conditions were very good. - Duffey KK6MC



James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM


2019 January VHF Contest Results on Line

James Duffey
 

The results writeup for the January 2019 VHF Contest are now on line:


The digital modes, in particular FT8,  played a major role in the January contest, increasing the logs submitted significantly. But the overall QSOs made in the contest remained the same. So, those additional digital QSOs came from the higher bands. I think this is not good. Please read my comments on this in the writeup and think about what it means for the future of VHF contesting, if you like that future, and what can be done to address the continued erosion of the bands above 144MHz in contesting. 

Thanks for all who participated in the January contest. - Duffey KK6MC


James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM


k2ez/r

Bruce Draper
 

This is from the Pack Rats mailing list, so some of you have probably already seen it. I’m wondering if Duffey has similar stories to tell.

   -Bruce 




Rover Challenge #162

It has been a long first day of the contest.  While nothing spectacular has happened, it has been going okay.  The multi-ops seem to drag their feet as usual and the telephone number you have for the biggest multi-op in the area doesn’t work.   Digital modes have produced contacts, but QSY opportunities are lacking.  You hear tons of digital mode signals that would be easy to work on SSB if someone would just call CQ.  This seems to be the new normal however. 

It is getting very late and most activity has wound down.  You are about 40 minutes from your overnight stop and looking forward to a shower, and some rest.  It won’t be a long rest since you are planning to get out around 6am-ish but the shower and rest will be enough recharge.  If all goes well you will be activating three new grids by 10am.  Two of those are really good locations and you expect to pick up lots of Qs and mults. 

You come up on a rest area on the highway.  You stop to get some water, and a little snack.  It is now that you discover your wallet is missing.  It isn’t in the rover and you think back to the last time you had it out.  That was over five hours ago and 140 miles back.  It was when you last filled the tank and got some dinner.    You hope it was there. 

No cash, no credit cards, no driver’s license.  This isn’t looking good.  Good news, you looked up the place you used it last, called, and they have your wallet!

Can you continue your rove and pick it up on the way back?   You didn’t have a room reserved much less pre-paid since you weren’t certain you would make it all this way.   Maybe sleep in the car?  Oh wait, you aren’t out of fuel yet, but there is no way to get thru four or so hours in the morning without needing to fill up. 

Okay, you think maybe better part of valor is to head back and get the wallet?  By now it is after 2am and it’ll be 4:30-ish by the time you get to where it is.  What then?  Stay there?  But that is over 3 hours away from the grid corner you intended to activate in the morning.  If you turned around immediately after getting your wallet, you would be an hour and a half late for your intended start time and have gotten no sleep at all.  This does not bode well for your rove plans.

Then you have an unwanted though.  Can you even get back to where your wallet is?  The fuel gauge shows two thirds of a tank but you know it is very non-linear and at a half tank it seems to go towards empty at an incredible rate.  Experience also suggests a half take indication is usually a bit under a third of a tank.  So two thirds doesn’t give you much confidence. 

Maybe some math is in order.  You know with all the antennas, the rover’s highway MPG is just a hair over 15 mpg.  That is with the antennas facing forward and you have been swinging them all over during that 140 miles.  That can’t help.  With 22 gallon tank, that should be a 330 mile range.  Okay you only went 140 miles and with 330 mile range, you should be good.  Then you remember that yes, it may have only been 140 miles, but it also has been five hours since you filled the tank.  The rover’s engine has been running the entire time.  It is looking very iffy. 

It gets better though.   You are on a tollway and can’t just turn around.  You must proceed to the next exit, pay the toll and double back and paying the toll again as there is no practical alternate route.  

And then there is still the problem of how to pay the toll.  Fortunately you are prepared for that.  You routinely dump your extra change into one of the cup holders specifically for tolls.  And since you got tired sorting out the quarters from the pennies and dimes, you pretty much only have been dumping quarters in it, and it looks fairly fulll.  So maybe there is enough to pay the tolls and get some extra fuel? 

You look at the toll slip and see for the next exit the toll will be $4.10.  So right off the top $8.20 of that precious change will need to go for tolls.  And that next exit isn’t for another five miles adding 10 miles to the route needed to get your wallet.  That is another two thirds of a gallon you will need. 

Will the rover make it all the way back to get your wallet?  Will there be enough change for the tolls?  Will there be enough extra change to feed the tank if needed?  And wouldn’t it be your luck that law enforcement will take an interest while you don’t have your driver’s license on you?


Re: VHF Contest

Ed
 

Must have missed you Glenn. Was at Ham Com  Friday and Saturday also. Always on Contest week end

 

Ed N5JEH  DM65rd

 

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From: Glenn
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2019 6:07 PM
To: nmvhf@groups.io
Subject: [nmvhf] VHF Contest

 

Sounds like everyone had a fun time last weekend! Unfortunately, HAMCOM is scheduled the same weekend, why I don't know. This has always been an issue discussed in the Texas VHF groups. If anyone needs DM73 on six, just yell.

 

73

Glenn. NQ5X

Ruidoso

 

 

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